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Title: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Captain Barrett on August 31, 2012, 08:41:46 AM
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Folks,

Much as it pains me to do this, I must put my Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull rifle up for sale...

I shall post pics of the rifle later today...

Asking price: $3100.00, which includes shipping directly to you, since this is an antique firearm, No FFL needed...

I am quite firm on this price. This rifle is PRISTINE, as the pics will show. Original blueing. Original, intact military markings...
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Drydock on August 31, 2012, 04:51:47 PM
AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!  Where's $3100 when you REALLY need it!  Take a well behaved (mostly) teenager in trade?

Drydock (what really wishs he had a spare 3 grand about now . . .)

Ned?

General?
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Niederlander on August 31, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
I'd love to have it, too, but it's a little (maybe a lot) out of my league!
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: River City John on August 31, 2012, 05:26:20 PM
Well, that's three of us!

Perhaps we could work out a tri-joint custody agreement . . . ;D Trouble is, we'd all want to have use of it at the same time. And who would reload for me??

RCJ
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Captain Barrett on August 31, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
Gents,

I do have a PayPal account. IF you have a credit card tied into PayPal, PLUS your SO will alow it...
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on August 31, 2012, 05:54:27 PM
I do have a CC tied to PP, SO approval being an entirely different matter.  You picked the wrong august for the sale.  sorry
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Captain Barrett on August 31, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Gents,

I have received tentative acceptence from...RIVER CITY JOHN!!! I have agreed to give him 10 days refusal...

I shall keep folks apprised of things...

I wanted to keep this rifle "in the family." While I have been not very active, suffice to say, GAF has my full and wholehearted support. My life has been full of turmoil for the past decade. GAF has been one thing that helps to keep me focused on the positive...
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Drydock on August 31, 2012, 06:41:45 PM
I too have a CC and Paypal, but too many other things (curse you, teen age teeth) demanding of it.  Still, I shall do my best to ingratiate myself into RCJs last will and testament . . .
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Cowtown Scout on August 31, 2012, 09:43:49 PM
Congratulation RCJ!!  Look forward to seeing this fine rifle at a future Muster.  Thank you for removing this temptation as my funds have taken a large hit this year due to my uncontrollable purchasing of vintage military rifles.
Scout
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Captain Barrett on September 11, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
Folks,

The rifle is now in the welcoming and skilled hands of RCJ...
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Drydock on September 11, 2012, 03:44:36 AM
So, how ya feelin' John?  Can I get you ennything . . .   
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Pitspitr on September 11, 2012, 06:24:34 AM
Not that you're feeble or anything John, but if you need a gun bearer let me know!  ::)
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Delmonico on September 11, 2012, 11:14:05 AM
Oh, oh, John can I shoot it a couple times, the Vetterli was a lot of fun. ;D

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOMM%202012/GAF2012193.jpg)

I'll even make a new nightshirt this winter, I'm thinking the green and black plaid like Rattlesnake Jack wear would be kinda neat. ;)
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: River City John on September 11, 2012, 04:26:52 PM
Not too sure I'm going to be shooting it for quite a while.
Most all the components such as altered brass, repro stripper clips or dies, are out of stock.

Did a preliminary search for the unique ammo belt, bayonet and scabbard and weighted pull-through cleaning brush that goes into the butt trap to complete it. Yoikes!
They're just not found and no one makes reproductions. S & S Firearms (nice gentleman who has a personal interest in the Lee Navy) told me that the bayonet is very hard to find and to expect to pay $600.00 or so. And to be careful, because there are a lot of ones that are sold that are confusing and not the original one meant for the Lee Navy.

Downloaded a reprint of the government manual for the Lee Navy, so have something to go by. Even right there in the manual it says that you could load the magazine well with five loose rounds without a stripper clip. (It's as if they'd read the Battle Rifle rules . . . ;D) Fortunately S & S Firearms does sell quite a few original parts.
Anyone know of some resources for these items, please let me know.

I will bring it to the Grand Muster to play with, but I plan on shooting my Vetterli and Open Top.


And don't get all solicitous about my health and well being, Drydock. My wife has already informed me that she's burying all my guns with me in the coffin. She also thinks the Vetterli has enough length to make an interesting floor lamp.

RCJ
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Niederlander on September 11, 2012, 04:36:58 PM
Buried with you, eh?  Fortunately, I have a good spade!
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Drydock on September 11, 2012, 04:50:15 PM
I keep thinking of the burial scene at the beginning of "Paint Your Wagon"!
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Delmonico on September 11, 2012, 04:51:55 PM
Buried with you, eh?  Fortunately, I have a good spade!

Jerry has a tractor with a front end loaders, it will save on work.
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Niederlander on September 11, 2012, 05:27:18 PM
I'm thinking I may need to be stealthier than that!
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Pitspitr on September 11, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
And don't get all solicitous about my health and well being, Drydock. My wife has already informed me that she's burying all my guns with me in the coffin.
::) Burying your guns with you? Hummmm....GOOD IDEA! ::) Is your plot in a dark corner of the cemetary?
Jerry has a tractor with a front end loaders, it will save on work.
;)

She also thinks the Vetterli has enough length to make an interesting floor lamp.
:o That I don't think is such a good idea. I have and 1866 Springfield someone did that to
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6416/trapdoorlampgj5.jpg)
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Delmonico on September 11, 2012, 06:23:45 PM
Unless it rains soon they most likey are going to have to leave the box above ground.  I would want to be a grave digger right now.
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Guns Garrett on September 11, 2012, 10:15:00 PM
Wasn't the .220 Swift originally formed from the 6mm Navy case?  Wiki says the "original" was formed from the .250-3000 Savage, but Winchester's COMMERCIAL version was "based" on the 6mm Navy.  The .220 has a semi-rimmed case, but the rim and base dia of the 6mm are the same (.448")....I dunno...
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: Delmonico on September 12, 2012, 07:52:51 AM
Guns you are right, the case can be made from 220 Swift.
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: pony express on September 12, 2012, 04:44:07 PM
I seem to remember reading about that sometime-that you can use .22 Swift brass, but the neck will be a bit short, but not too shrt to work.
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: River City John on September 15, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
I have located and purchased a correct bayonet for the Lee Navy, sans scabbard.

Condition a tad 'used', but so much the better since I plan to 'fix bayonet' and use it at GAF shoots from time to time. Will look for a better grade complete bayonet with scabbard in future for display.

RCJ
Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: 6mm USN on September 23, 2012, 08:42:25 PM
Found this out there though it is a bit steep.  It might be what you are looking for your display.

http://www.jjmilitaryantiques.com/catdet.asp?TargetItem=13453&CategoryType=saberbayus


Title: Re: FS: Winchester Model 1895 Lee Navy Straight Pull
Post by: River City John on September 24, 2012, 09:23:40 AM
Yes, a bit steep. I've been told that they can be found for the $650-800.00 range, or perhaps a bit better, in as good a condition. Best source may be gun shows rather than online sites.

It does give me a nice visual of what the scabbard looks like. And the grade certainly would match the nice grade of my rifle, to be sure.

I found my example for around a fourth of that asking price, although in a lesser grade with slight crack in left grip. At least I have a proper bayonet to "Fix Bayonet" and attack the target dummy at Musters.

6mm USN, thanks for the resource! I can use all the help I can get on this journey.

RCJ