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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => The Winchester Model 1873 => Topic started by: w44wcf on December 18, 2011, 08:51:01 AM

Title: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on December 18, 2011, 08:51:01 AM
Thought I would let my fellow 1873 enthusiasts know about this neat historic Winchester Catalog.  
I have a copy and it sure goes nicely with my 1873 Winchester rifle. :)

Retired printer has about 90 copies left.....

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Leverguns/1875WinchesterCatalog.jpg)

>pages 3-6 - '73 rifles illustrations

> page 7 shows the ammunition components including the bullet profile.  

>pages 8-9 illustrate all of the sight options

>pages 10-16 show cut away views,, parts listing and illustration and "What to Do" directions

>pages 17-22 explain the benefits of the new Model of 1873 and the purpose and popularity of Winchester Repeating Rifles

>pages 23 to 40 - contain testimonials (1873-1875) of folks that had used the '73 rifle with great success including such notables as "Buffalo Bill" Cody, William Lyman and Billy Dixon of Adobe Wells fame.

>pages 41 to 42 - testimonials on the Model 1866 rifle .

>pages 43 to 48 - testimonials on the Henry Rifle dated 1861-1867

>pages 49 to 60 - illustrate the different Metallic Cartridges made by Winchester at that time and was the first Winchester catalog to do so.

>pages 61 to 62 – loading tool and instructions

>pages 63 to 65 – prices of ammunition

>The back cover shows an illustration of the Winchester Repeating Arms Company as it appeared in New Haven, Conn. in 1874.

Please see the listing in classifieds for more information on obtaining a copy.....
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?action=classifieds;sa=view;id=162

w44wcf
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 19, 2011, 10:37:05 AM
44wcf
I need to get my hands on one of these . I have dropped a check in the mail . Thanks for posting this .
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 27, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
Howdy
I got my 1873 Winchester catalog today . And did you know that 1000 rounds for a 73 is only $20 . The catalog is a neat piece to add to your collection . It's well worth the $12 .
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Johnny McCrae on December 28, 2011, 12:23:35 AM
Just sent my check in. Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: shieldsmt on December 28, 2011, 09:03:18 AM
Outstanding reprint, got mine yesterday!  Thanks for posting.  Having one sent to my son today.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Buck Stinson on December 28, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
I bought mine about 3 years ago, after seeing a copy that belonged to a friend in Utah.  There are only two or three originals known to exist.    I saw an original that was in Jim Gordon's collection back in 1997.  He sold his entire 1873 Winchester collection and related collectables in May of 1998 and his 1875 catalog was part of that auction.   The condition of that catalog was spectacular.  I beleive it sold for $3250.00.   About the only difference between the reprint and the original is the color and graphics on the cover.   Anyone who buys this reprint will be pleased.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on December 28, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
I agree.  I got my reprint yesterday and was up late into the night reading it.

CC Griff
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on December 30, 2011, 08:26:47 AM
Fellow 1873 enthusiasts,
Glad to hear that you received the catalog aok and found some interesting, historic information between the covers. ;D

w44wcf
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 21, 2012, 01:52:28 AM
w44wcf
I let the NCOWS members know about the catalog . With their enthusiasm about Authenticity , well they will want one .
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Wolfgang on January 22, 2012, 04:06:20 AM
 Got mine . . and the second one yesterday.  Is WONDERFUl.   Thank you, . . . .  :)
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on January 27, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
Rowdy,
Thank you.

Wolfgang,
Glad to hear that you rec'd it ok.

w44wcf
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Kinchafoonee Kid on February 11, 2012, 12:08:30 PM
Just received mine in last evenings post.  Great job with the reproduction. Thanks w44wcf!
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Winc 1873 on November 28, 2012, 04:58:22 PM
I bought mine about 3 years ago, after seeing a copy that belonged to a friend in Utah.  There are only two or three originals known to exist.    I saw an original that was in Jim Gordon's collection back in 1997.  He sold his entire 1873 Winchester collection and related collectables in May of 1998 and his 1875 catalog was part of that auction.   The condition of that catalog was spectacular.  I beleive it sold for $3250.00.   About the only difference between the reprint and the original is the color and graphics on the cover.   Anyone who buys this reprint will be pleased.

I`ve got what I believe to be an original.  How can I authenticate ?
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: KirkD on November 28, 2012, 08:27:10 PM
I`ve got what I believe to be an original.  How can I authenticate ?
You might want to post this question on the Winchester Collectors' forum http://www.winchestercollector.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=3 They have some pretty serious and major collectors on there that might be able to give you some solid input.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Gripmaker on December 04, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
W44wcf,  Just saw this post and was wondering if you have any more copies left.  Would sure like to get one or even a reprint.
Gripmaker
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: The Pathfinder on December 05, 2012, 06:36:59 AM
w44wcf, two maybe?
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on December 06, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Gripmaker, The Pathfinder,

A retired printer in my area still has some left but doesn't want the hastle of mailing, collecting money, etc. so I can get the reprints from him and take care of getting them to the post office.  The cost of the catalog + postage is $12.

PLease send me a PM with your address, and I will obtain the catalogs and mail them to you along with a return envelope for payment.

Sincerely,
w44wcf
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on May 05, 2013, 07:12:33 AM
Talked to my printer friend the other day. He still has about 50 reprints left.

He doesn't want the hastle of mailing, collecting money, etc. so I can get the reprints from him and take care of getting them to the post office.  The cost of the catalog + postage is $12.

If you have an interest, send me a PM with your address, and I will obtain the catalog(s) and mail them to you along with a return envelope for payment.

Sincerely,
w44wcf 
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 05, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Howdy
Ordered one a while back and was very happy with it . It has lots of interesting reading with it .
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Grizzly Adams on May 22, 2013, 10:44:59 PM
I received mine!  Great addition for anyone who loves, and shoots these rifles. :)
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: cowboy_paul on May 26, 2013, 10:48:18 AM
PM sent with my address, can't wait to receive mine
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Abilene on May 26, 2013, 01:24:42 PM
PM sent with my address, can't wait to receive mine

me, too  :)
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: IRON JACK on May 26, 2013, 04:01:31 PM
PM sent with address, Thanks for the trust
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: dusty texian on May 29, 2013, 06:01:22 PM
Hey w44wcf, I just received my 1875 catalog . It is great ! Thank's for making this happen , I know I will enjoy reading this over a few time's . Thank's again ........Dusty.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 29, 2013, 06:52:04 PM
Dusty
I think everyone that has a 1873 needs one . I have read mine several times . Lots of great things in it .
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Abilene on June 04, 2013, 03:07:21 PM
Got mine in the mail.  Very cool!  On first view, noticed the '73 had no trigger bar safety, or lever safety as most call it.  I had to get out my Pirkle book and look it up to find that this wasn't added until the second model.  Learn something new every day!

Thanks, John!
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Slo' Poke Pete on July 25, 2014, 10:27:53 AM
Are there any of these left?
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on July 28, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
Mornin' Pete,

Yes he has some left. If you send me a PM with your address, I'll arrange to have one sent to you with a return envelope for th payment.

w44wcf
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Slo' Poke Pete on July 29, 2014, 05:20:24 PM
Thank you sir.  PM on the way.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 08, 2014, 08:13:49 PM
So I'm reading the catalog and at the bottom of the directions page it says "The gun may be snapped when empty without injury"

What does that mean? Is it saying it is safe to dry fire?
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: w44wcf on December 12, 2014, 08:08:49 AM
Cliff,
Yes, I believe that is what it means.  Apparently back then, the term "Dry Firing" had not been coined yet.
Did you notice that back then, Winchester suggested the use of "wads" (page 7) for reloading.

I found evidence of what the "wad" was in some very early .44 W.C.F. cartridges I dissected.  It was a .030" thick cardboard disc between the powder and the soft lead bullet to help protect the base of the bullet.

Ammunition manufactured by Winchester was used by Doc Pardee to fire that impressive 30 shot group at 110 yards distant on page 24. ;D

w44wcf 
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 12, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
44,
Yes I noticed that about the wads also.

I really enjoy reading the catalog. Thanks for getting it for me. My wife said she would be doing bookwork in the morning and would get a check in the mail.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Black River Smith on April 02, 2015, 09:45:43 PM
w44wcf,

I sent you a PM earlier today about whether a copy of this catalog is still availability.

Thanks
Black River Smith
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: olered on April 03, 2015, 08:05:11 AM
This being an old topic I looked on line and Cornell Publishing among others has reprints. Of course at a higher price.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 03, 2015, 08:43:27 AM
Howdy
If you're   a lover of the 73 , this is a must . Lots of good information on the 73 .
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: olered on April 03, 2015, 10:44:34 AM
This being an old topic I looked on line and Cornell Publishing among others has reprints. Of course at a higher price.

Just heard back from 44 and there are some left at his printer. Gettin a couple for me and a pard. Yippee.
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Black River Smith on April 03, 2015, 05:49:27 PM
w44wcf,

I responded today by sendlng PM with shipping info.  Hope you still have some left with the new requests.

Thanks
BRS
Title: Re: 1873 Winchester in 1875 Winchester Catalog
Post by: Bryan Austin on March 24, 2022, 04:38:39 PM
I`ve got what I believe to be an original.  How can I authenticate ?

Any word on this catalog. It should be a reproduction but I dont know when...I think. I noticed John's pgoto the binder is rounded and yours is squared off. I have one like yours.

Here looks to be an original that sold for $6,325.00
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/53094-194-402/?fbclid=IwAR0IOwfQc_PdHO8As4_heQzw42PXqdjbCy0Wd_rSpWOMbR59qaHXZRq0hc4