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Title: Puma M-92
Post by: edward austin cable on April 11, 2010, 11:07:04 PM
Was wondering if anybody could give me some reviews on Puma's model 92. Im looking for a lever gun that I can use more as a work/everyday kind of rifle. I wouldn't be using this for my NCOWS matches. The rifle would be riding in the scabbard on my horse multiple days a week. So Im looking for a rifle that can stand up to everyday wear and tear on a working ranch. I carry a Winchester model 94 .30-30 currently. But Im wanting to downgrade on the caliber size a bit. Looking more in the .45 Colt, .44 Mag, or .357 caliber area, something a little on the lighter side to carry all day. Thanks for any reviews and information.
Cable
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on April 12, 2010, 06:41:40 AM
If I recall correctly, Puma's are now made by Chiappa in Italy.  Their rifles have a good reputation.

You might also want to consider a Marlin 1894.  They are tough and American made, not to mention less expensive than the Puma's I have seen recently.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: edward austin cable on April 12, 2010, 11:29:31 AM
Thank you Aggie. That was just going to be my next post, was which others preferred the Marling or the Puma. Thank for the reply, the advice is much appreciated.
Cable
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on April 13, 2010, 07:56:05 AM
I hope you're happy with whatever you purchase.  After all this is all for fun, so it's a matter of what "trips your trigger" as far as gun design.

For a light weight saddle gun, the only real difference I can see in them is that the Marlins probably tend to feed more reliably and I like that they throw the casings to the side.  Some of the top eject rifles (but not all) have a tendency to throw them empties on top of my head.  ;)
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on April 13, 2010, 10:13:18 AM
I hope you're happy with whatever you purchase.  After all this is all for fun, so it's a matter of what "trips your trigger" as far as gun design.

Some of the top eject rifles (but not all) have a tendency to throw them empties on top of my head.  ;)



Wear a hat!
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: edward austin cable on April 13, 2010, 12:31:20 PM
Is there essentially any difference between a Rossi m92 or Puma m92? Or are they the same?
Cable
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: willygene on April 13, 2010, 12:48:25 PM
i have one in 357 the 16 trapper i slicked the action up and made a brass mag follower makes an excelent truck gun reliable and accurate next i will remove the safty from the bolt and plug that. they are great little guns .  i would refere a 1873 for cowboy action though.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on April 13, 2010, 03:34:53 PM
Sir Charles,

I do wear a hat, but it is still somewhat distracting.  ::)

Edward,

I haven't handled a Rossi in a long time, but they've had a reputation of having a pretty rough action and feeding reliability is iffy.  I think I'd tend to go with the Puma if you want a '92.  I think Chiappa (makers of the Puma) may also make the '92's sold by Taylors and/or Cimarron.  You might check with their website.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: edward austin cable on April 13, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
Thanks again Aggie for the advice, I will do that.
Cable
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Big T on April 13, 2010, 05:26:28 PM
If I were working on a Ranch i would go with the 1894 marlin in 44 mag , big enough for knockdown at 100 yds with power behind it for longer shots if need be , I love my 357 94 but would rather have the 44 mag , I have the emf hartford , same as the puma 92 an its a good gun but seems weak in the 45 lc cal for killin critters at distances , t
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: edward austin cable on April 13, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
Thanks Big T, I will keep that in mind.
Cable
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: kcub on April 23, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
fixin' to pick this puppy up tomorrow

I'll let you know she handles

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/lehi/fine_rifle/1706876_chip92r44_leh.jsp;jsessionid=HTI0WLIQ00NIBLAQBBISCNVMCAEFEIWE?categoryId=SEARCH_gl&_requestid=112367
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Messerist on May 11, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
I recently bought a Marlin 1894 in .44mag and I couldn't be happier.  The Puma M-92 kcub pick up is a great looking firearm as well. 
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Cookie on May 19, 2010, 05:25:15 PM
Is there essentially any difference between a Rossi m92 or Puma m92? Or are they the same?
Cable

Same gun, different importers.

Just bought a Rossi M92 carbine in .45 Colt for $400 new. I've only shot it once so far, putting 30 rounds through at the range. The action's a little stiff, especially on the return stroke, but otherwise it's great. Haven't really put her through the paces though, so I'll defer to someone with more experience.

Mine's for play rather than work, but the carbine's a great choice for you I think. The finish is nice, but not so nice you're afraid to take it out of the safe, and the gun's light enough that packing it on a horse should be no trouble.

(http://www.inspiredworkshop.com/uploads/guncart2.jpg)
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: LtBlue425 on May 29, 2010, 12:44:01 AM
Edward, if you're looking for a working gun check out a 454 Casull in the Puma M92. I just got one week ago and haven't gotten any ammo loaded but love it's balance. The real reason I bought was for the 454 Casull cartridge. Something more powerful than a 45-70 in such a compact package was pretty attractive. Plus the ability to fire lower powered 45LC ammo with easier to find brass was another attraction. Comes with a nice recoil pad.  ;) As far as action smoothness, I would categorize it as smooth, I'm quite impressed with it.

Pictured with other recent additions.
(http://fototime.com/A0DDB8A4E6918B9/standard.jpg)

Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: TomBullweed on June 03, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
I shoot a tuned Rossi 92 in .357 for CAS.  They can really be slicked up (no matter what others may say).  They are solid as a rock, but they are difficult to clean and are not as tolerant to .38's as some other actions.

I picked up a Marlin 1894 in .44 and had the barrel cut to 16.25" with the magazine buttoned to six rounds.  I slicked up the action my self with a little stone work and locked the safety in the off position (carry with empty chamber).  That is as good as a woods gun can get.  .44 Magnums loaded with 240 XTP's at 1250 (pistol) spit out at around 1550 from the rifle for very little recoil.  I changed the bead front sight to a plain post and can hold 4" at 100 yards all day long.  .44 Specials wil work in the gun, but I stick to this one-does-everything load for now.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Dino on June 05, 2010, 09:14:08 PM
Same gun, different importers.

I don't think so, Cookie ...
The Puma is in fact made by Chiappa (Italy), but I believe the Rossi is made somewhere in Brazil.

I recently bought this '92 Cimarron, which is also made by Chiappa.
The quality and fit is very, very good.  :)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/DinoBonanno/DSC03413.jpg)
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Old Doc on June 09, 2010, 02:40:18 PM
I haven't priced a Puma 92 lately but had the impression they were cheaper than the Taylor Chiappa or the Chiappa USA gun. If they are all made by Chiappa, are there different quality levels?
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Cookie on June 09, 2010, 07:10:21 PM
I don't think so, Cookie ...
The Puma is in fact made by Chiappa (Italy), but I believe the Rossi is made somewhere in Brazil.

According to Legacy Sports website, the Puma is being made by Ciappa starting in 2010.

Prior to that, the Puma's were supplied by Rossi (Yes, they are in Brazil). But since Rossi is now importing directly, Legacy Sports obviously found a new supplier, but kept the Puma name.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Dino on June 09, 2010, 07:28:31 PM
According to Legacy Sports website, the Puma is being made by Ciappa starting in 2010.

Prior to that, the Puma's were supplied by Rossi (Yes, they are in Brazil). But since Rossi is now importing directly, Legacy Sports obviously found a new supplier, but kept the Puma name.


The question was ... "Is there essentially any difference between a Rossi m92 or Puma m92? Or are they the same?"

I guess the confusion here is ...
The Puma may have once been supplied by Rossi but, to my knowledge, the Rossi was never produced by in Italy.



Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: RRio on June 10, 2010, 03:51:23 PM
The Rossi '92 has been made in Brazil since the beginning in the mid 1970s. I bought, probably the very first one to come into the Phoenix Valley that I ordered special in the early summer of 1978.
Since then, I have owned about a half dozen of then in various calibers, and never had an ounce of trouble with any of them. Navy Arms were the more refined Rossi 92s, with EMF's Hartford coming in second. I currently shoot with a Hartford.

LSI made it confusing by starting with the Rossi and then switching to Chiappa.  ???
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Curley Cole on June 11, 2010, 12:46:07 AM
Howdy
I have a Rossi 92 in 357 that I bought from Big 5 in early 1980. It has not given me a lick of trouble except that it didn't like PMC ammo (at least in the 1980's) I shot 2 rounds of PMC and both them seperated the case, and left the front half in the chamber. I quit usin PMC and the problem has never happened again. Otherwise, she shoots where she looks all the time...

curley
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: kcub on June 19, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
fixin' to pick this puppy up tomorrow

I'll let you know she handles

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/lehi/fine_rifle/1706876_chip92r44_leh.jsp;jsessionid=HTI0WLIQ00NIBLAQBBISCNVMCAEFEIWE?categoryId=SEARCH_gl&_requestid=112367

this chiappa has issues (magazine walks out under recoil) and I am waiting on repairs from italy in my 3rd month now

Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Wills Point Pete on June 23, 2010, 05:43:55 AM
 I own and shoot a Rossi M-92, the stainless steel rifle model, imported by Navy Arms. It's a .45 Colt. In various handloads it's quite a potent little rifle, with a .300 grain jacketed hollowpoint I can match the old Remington 300 grain .45-70 loads. That is enough for anything but Moose and the big bruins and suchlike. I shoot this as a main match rifle, with BP, then I bring it home, clean it, adjust the sights and load it with hot JHP handloads to discourage tractor theives and coyotes, I've settled on 250 grain Hornadys in front of the "Ruger Only" load of H110. Yjis is actually too much of a load for our small bodied white tail deer we have down here in Texas.

 This rifle and carbine action is actually somewhat stronger than the Marlin although I would probably look into trying to strengthen the magazine tube if I wanted to shoot a .454 or a .480. I mean the tube is strong enough, how it's tied to the gun.

 I would love to have a late model in .32 WCF, aka .32-20. I have a Marlin in .357 which is a nice little carbine, I have used it on game up to deer. It spent some ten or so years spending most of it's time in the trunk of a county cruiser, for when the service revolver was a tad too shortranged. Tell the truth, with the '92 in .45, I would be happier with a .32 WCF, instead.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: WyrTwister on July 04, 2010, 09:34:13 AM
I don't think so, Cookie ...
The Puma is in fact made by Chiappa (Italy), but I believe the Rossi is made somewhere in Brazil.

I recently bought this '92 Cimarron, which is also made by Chiappa.
The quality and fit is very, very good.  :)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/DinoBonanno/DSC03413.jpg)


     Puma is a name stuck on them by the importer or or importers .

     I have a Rossi Puma in .45 LC .  Very pretty little rifle , light , handy and low recoil .  One of my favorite lever guns .

     The importer or importers are now having them made in Italy .  I have no idea as to the reason for the switch ?

     I also have a Marlin .44 Mag that wears a scope ( eye sight not as good as it used to be ) .

     And a Winy M 1892 that some one converted to .357 Mag , at some point in time .  It is another of my favorite lever guns .

God bless
Wyr
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: PABLO DEL NORTE on July 19, 2010, 08:16:31 AM
 :)  I BOUGHT MY '92 ( .44 MAG ) FROM BIG 5 ALSO ( I DON'T THINK THEY HANDLE'EM ANYMORE) & IT IS A SMOOTH SHOOTER. EVERYBODY LIKES TO SHOOT IT. THE ONLY ISSUE IS SINCE I BOUGHT IT THE PRICE OF AMMO WENT UP
A WHOLE LOT!!   :'( :'(

I ALSO HAVE A WIN. '94 IN .44 MAG NIB BUT I HAVE YET TO SHOOT IT.  :)
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Twitchy on July 20, 2010, 05:31:57 AM
OK Cookie, I have a Rossi M92 in 357 and like it so far except for the cheesy saftey on top.  What REALLY caught my eye tho was you guncart! I love it!  I dont spose you drew up any plans did you?  I spect you may have just winged it but I think I may just try to reverse engineer it (imitation being the most sincere form of flattery) Thanks!
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Cookie on July 21, 2010, 10:13:54 PM
Glad you like it! I sure do!  ;D

Sorry, no plans. I had the idea in my head and went from there. But since the chair is just an old 'glider' rocking chair, it was pretty easy to put together. Just take off the rocker's hinges and bottom assembly, make a box underneath, add a seat / box lid, then add an axle and some wheels, and finally slap on a couple gun holders.

My other post (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,1340.140.html) over in Shooter's Meeting has a more detailed description, along with some more pics.

If you need more detail, lemme know.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Twitchy on July 22, 2010, 11:43:11 PM
Thanks pard. Your guncart post is simple enough even I think I could do it, (I think Custer said something like that too).  My wife and I garage sale quite a bit so its only a matter of time before I find a suitable "candidate".  Thanks again, Twitchy
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: mark grimes on August 03, 2010, 05:05:21 PM
where's the mare's leg?
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: WyrTwister on August 15, 2010, 01:10:48 PM
Was wondering if anybody could give me some reviews on Puma's model 92. Im looking for a lever gun that I can use more as a work/everyday kind of rifle. I wouldn't be using this for my NCOWS matches. The rifle would be riding in the scabbard on my horse multiple days a week. So Im looking for a rifle that can stand up to everyday wear and tear on a working ranch. I carry a Winchester model 94 .30-30 currently. But Im wanting to downgrade on the caliber size a bit. Looking more in the .45 Colt, .44 Mag, or .357 caliber area, something a little on the lighter side to carry all day. Thanks for any reviews and information.
Cable

     Puma is a name stuck on the rifle by the importer , LSI .  The rifles were made by Rossi , but LSI switched to an Italian manufacturer in about 2010 .

     I have a Rossi in .45 LC .  One of my favorite little rifles .  Very fun to shoot .

     I presently have one on lay-a-way .  In .357 Mag .  Hope to be shooting it in a couple of months .

     I shoot home cast bullets in all my lever guns .

God bless
Wyr
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: kcub on September 05, 2010, 01:36:58 PM
this chiappa has issues (magazine walks out under recoil) and I am waiting on repairs from italy in my 3rd month now



after months of waiting for the gun to come back from Italy they didn't even fix it
Cabela's gave me store credit
 :-[
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: Johnny McCrae on September 06, 2010, 07:14:16 AM
I have an EMF Hartford Carbine in .44-40 WCF. The stock is not walnut but some sort of Brazilian hardwood. IMHO it is a great looking rifle in addition to being reliable and accurate. I seem to remember paying around $500 for it.
Title: Re: Puma M-92
Post by: WyrTwister on November 14, 2010, 08:51:33 AM
Was wondering if anybody could give me some reviews on Puma's model 92. Im looking for a lever gun that I can use more as a work/everyday kind of rifle. I wouldn't be using this for my NCOWS matches. The rifle would be riding in the scabbard on my horse multiple days a week. So Im looking for a rifle that can stand up to everyday wear and tear on a working ranch. I carry a Winchester model 94 .30-30 currently. But Im wanting to downgrade on the caliber size a bit. Looking more in the .45 Colt, .44 Mag, or .357 caliber area, something a little on the lighter side to carry all day. Thanks for any reviews and information.
Cable

I have a Rossi Puma .45 LC and a Braziltech Rossi .357 Mag & really like them both .  But for me , it is just a trip to the range , from time to time .  Mild recoil , fun to shoot .

      As far as caliber choice , it depends on how much energy / power you need .

     If you reload , .44 Mag leaves a lot of flexibility to load up or load down .

God bless
Wyr