Wecome, we need a good name, got one?
BTW if tou decide you got took and need to get rid of it, just give it to me and I'll use it to hunt deer since I'm one of the folks who live in a state where they don't require you to use a danged bird gun to hunt deer. :)
Whaddya mean, Glen?
I formed the (virtual) "Cheapo Big-Bore Rifle Club" a year or 2 ago! CBBRC I guess.
If ya have a Shiloh or a C.Sharps (or any other MORE expensive fine rifle) you don't belong - unless you bought that Shiloh or C.Sharps (or whatever) for $50 at the local Pawn shop! ;D In which case I bow to YOU! ;)
Worst thing is, it now costs more in gas for me to shoot my CBBRC Armi Sport Sharps than it does to buy the powder to feed it! :P
Ah'm not shore I'd be welcome in yer CBBRC club; but if'n y'u don't mind my askin, what are th rules? an th price limit on BPCRs. Mine's a Pedersoli .45/70 frum Dixie Gun Werks, the MSRP waz $1,050.00 when ordered it. but I paid $1,000.00 fer it.
Gee Ah don't know--- is it anything like a "slinky?" ;D ::)SO WHAT THE H---- IS A SLINKY GUN
so what do you guys think of the H&R trapdoor 1873 spring
How about this? HALF a Pedersoli for less than $1,000!
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=14470&osCsid=2d5e6ddfa15a6827de35bdd37d3490f7
We may need to modify the price range for the CSRC. Just seen a tristar listed for $1050.00 on GB. That would put the older pedersoli's in the club.
BSJ
Just like one of you Wise ( wise-acre ) men quoted on one of these threads I read recently , " as soon as someone wins with an IAB then they will become the rage to owne too " .
Sage words there !
Pedersoli never won anything till they won something , right . ;D
Just because you owne a Shilo don't mean you can hit the broadside of the barn with it . Not that I wouldn't want one or owne one myself , just cannot afford it though , currently . Beauty doesn't win target shooting , practice does . Most Shilo owners think Pedersoli is crap , compaired . Pedersoli owners think IAB is crap , compaired . Pretty soon when IAB wins something , IAB owners will know they are all good rifles . Too bad it won't work the other way around ? But that's just people ;D
I owne none of them by the way , but watching this board tells me there is allot of rivalry with brands , and allot of people whom think thier %**%$ don't stink because they owne a Shilo or better . Just my observation is all . Typical for the human race there .
It is the old arrogance of " My Sig .45 will outshoot your Colt .45 any day of the week " ..... Blah blah blah .
Is Sig nicer ? Yes . Will it outshoot your Colt ? Not likely . Is the owner of a Shilo or better a better shot ? No . There you go .
Are they made better ? Yes. Can you win with an IAB ? Yes . End of story .
If I do get one , it most likely won't be a Shilo or better . It may not even be Pedersoli !!!!! I love the CROW that will be eatin as soon as IAB wins . But you won't hear anyone with real nice guns giving congrats , you'll hear how they were just having a bad day
and that's how IAB won . That is exactly what happened when Pedersoli won too , first time . I guess Shilo and better have had allot of bad days out recently !!!! Soon as IAB wins , they are really going to have some bad days out , because allot of poor people will be kickin your a$$ too . JMHO which aint so humble, its truth . ;D I like people whom want nice guns because they are nice guns , not because they have a name attatched to it . Your gun aint a Buffalo gun unless you have killed Buffalo either .
I am sure i will become part of the Cheap Sharps Club if I do buy one soon though ;D
Alabama
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tEN wOLVES ;) :D ;D
Howdy Folks,
Thanks for all the advice/encouragement concerning IAB. I hope mine is as dandy as everyone elses, though I'm still waitin' on her to ship from the shop it's at. This is my first blackpowder cartridge gun. I was gunning for a Marlin 1895 Cowboy, but the shop I ordered from messed up their website and didn't actually have the gun in stock. So I did what any red-blooded Georgia boy would do, I gave in to my memory/fantasies about old Matt Quigley's famous rifle. I bought the 32 inch Deluxe Sporter. I hope it is a post block safety rifle, which I've heard are a pain. Anyway, I am also looking for roundnose hardcast bullets as I intend to become a reloader as well. I can't find the dang things online to save my life. I can only find one or two weights here or there on midway. Am I looking in the wrong spot or am I gonna have to start casting my own? Any help there would be appreciated as well. Thanks again to all you "Cheap Sharps" brothers. :)
I reckoned I would buy pre-patched bullets. I will likely start with lubed grooved bullets first though anyway, just to get a feel for pressing and such.
Just got through reading all 5 pages of this post and have enjoyed it immensely. I do have some news that might be of interest and that is that IAB has won many matches already. I met a young man who works for Lee Shaver out of Lamar, MO and mentioned that I was looking for an IAB Sharps and how so many BPCR shooters seem to look down on it. His reply was that Lee (who has won many a match) uses an IAB-based rifle. I assume that means the receiver is about all that is still IAB and even it has probably seen extensive reworking but it is an IAB none-the-less, technically speakin' of course. I love it when snooty folks is found with egg on their face.
You should "qualfy" I paid $1,ooo.oo for mine , I believe that is the "cutoff"point.
Pick Kimbel,
1. I have one of the 1859 Sharps Carbines. <snip/>
2. With a 75 grain load behind a 475 grain .54 bullet the recoil is suprisingly mild. <snip/>
3. Have found the breechblock is quick to bind up from fouling. <snip/>
Ransom Gaer
Ok ...SOOO I tell the wife that you said
'Go for it' ;D ;D
You are right ,shootin is shootin I have fun in the basement with the old Daisy..
Save me a spot in the CSC :D
Enjoy
Dutchy
1. Sounds like I need to get one too! :D
2. Was that 2Fg and what brand? What kind of bullet were you using?
3. I'm not going to be fending off hordes of attackers with rapid fire so this isn't a deal breaker; I'll experiment and see what works for me.
Have you tried any of the black powder substitutes and, if so, how have they worked out? What kind of caps did you use with this?
Thanks for the time,
Pick
Steel Horse,
Can I join the Cheap Big Bore club with my Browning 1885 High Wall? I bought it new for $995, complete with sights. I think that was my one "steal" of a lifetime. She's a real tack driver, too.
Now if my wife performed as well, and looked as good................. ::)
OOH , you are living on the edge... ;D
Dutchy
Ace my pard
I know the feeling , but hay the way I figure it I'm a $10.00 shooter ...what in heck would I do with a $2000.00 gun!! :o
Take care
Dutchy
. I hit the 783 yd buffalo 7 of 8 attempts after I figured out how to use windage adjustment and I routinely hit the steel chickens at 200 yds off-hand.
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??? Where did ya shoot the chickens? There aren't any chickens in the Quigley.
Here is my Armi-Sport 1874 Sharps. I bought it from Taylor's in October of 2007 for $965.
I do my own reloading and ended up making a Cartridge Belt and Butt Cover for it. I also stripped off the original factory finish and re-finished the wood.
It's a lot of fun to shoot
Bore butter isn't much of a bullet lube,works good for lots of other things but.....
It's amazing what a good lube will do for tight groups, and just because a lube works ok in one rifle doesn't mean the next one will get along with it at all.
I might have missed the bullet weights, but something in the 500 gr give or take 20-30 grs is what's going to work the best in that 18 inch twist. Also seating to the lands can be counter productive with bpcr, so best to start out seatig the bullet to the driving band.
Hmmph,
Shows how much I know ....
I always thought that 'cheap Sharps' was an oxymoron, like 'military intelligence' or some such ....
Hmmph,Just in case you ain't been keepin' track, there ain't no such thing as a "cheap" Sharps anymore . . .
Shows how much I know ....
I always thought that 'cheap Sharps' was an oxymoron, like 'military intelligence' or some such ....
If Kevin Costner can drop a Buff with a Henry...aw, never mind, **************** (message continued) thinking how he'll use one round per buff and is calculating how much money he's going to make from his hunt...he gets educated real fast about how tough buff are.
Del I knew a ranchwoman that spent her best years herdin kids and raisin sheep and herefords, and she thought anybody using a bigger rifle than her 2520 on anything was just showing off and wasting meat. (and she never had an elk tag that wasn't filled)
Bought an IAB percussion Sharps a last month for $525 shipped and the seller included a box of bullets, nitrated paper, flask, capper and bullet mold.
Yesterday I sent off payment for a Palmetto Armoury 45-70 Gemmer-Sharps with vernier tang sight for $1100 shipped. Can I join the club??
Reb
??? I'm not particularly sure 800$ for a used gun of unknown pedigree is exactly cheap tho :o :D
Just saying that 800$ for a USED gun is not exactly my idea of cheap.
What do you suppose the smokeless loads fired in that rifle were. 38 grs of 3031 or 38 grs of bullseye?
???Taking this a weebit personal are you? ???
No one here questioned your credentials.
Altho me being the some what owly type I am, do have to wonder why some one would sell a 1500$+ setup for half price, and the just a few rounds of smokeless thing always makes me think about the cheesy twit in the checkered polyester sport coat and " only driven by a little ol lady to church on sundays"
And it gets pretty ugly when we start to talking about horse, cow and hay brokers.. >:(
Is the preacher part real or just a moniker?
Preacher Clint , congratulations pard, that's a heck of a deal for what you paid for it, I love my Pedersoli, they make great rifles.
Enjoy your new/used rifle
tEN wOLVES :D ;D
Thanks. I will.
Remember what you wrote me the other day? Same book, different chapter.
By the way, I have a Pedersoli Quigley with the Soule sight and bubble front. And I don't give a crap what the sharps snobs think. I've had the gun since Oct. 2005 and won't be trading it for one of the others. If I want one of the snob guns, I will buy one, right now I don't.
It shoots great and looks good----to me anyway.
I've seen the others (a lot) from Montana, they're nice but I' m not that impressed
Have a good one Preacher
Flame away the rest of you.
I was working out at the Bison Refuge this morning and Mother Nature provided a photo-op and since I had my cheap Sharps in the truck I couldn't pass it up...
I was working out at the Bison Refuge this morning and Mother Nature provided a photo-op and since I had my cheap Sharps in the truck I couldn't pass it up...
Got this one for about 300$ less than the retail so I suppose it qualifies for the "cheap" ;D
Shiloh #3 sporter with 30 inch heavy barrel 45-70
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/Ranch137/3Sharps2.jpg)
I know that others may not approve of my "cheap" Sharps .
The buffalo battery
A few years back IAB did offer a "kit" sharps.
Am I understanding that when all is said and done there is just no way to have a
fine-shooting SHARPS for under $2000 without looking for one propped against a
tree out in Nevada somewhere? Thoughts?