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« on: December 29, 2017, 10:06:10 am »


In my section the main bitch about the new shooting classes seems to be two hand hold smokeless shooters grouped with one hand hold shooters.

With out changing anything else, the easiest work around would be to redefine Traditional as any one handed hold shooter, smokeless or black powder.

Open would be redefined as any two handed hold shooter, smokeless or black powder.
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 06:48:14 am »

I agree, It's not fair for the those that use  1 hand to shoot to compete against those  that use 2 bands to hold there pistols. On the other hand, I don't think it's fair for us that like to make smoke to have to compete against the smokeless crowd. I think we need to go back to the way it was, with a min. number of shooters to have awards. That is the way I would support a change.

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 12:44:11 pm »

But then if you redefine the traditional to include smokeless duelist you have the ones dealing with the smoke and generally heavier recoil and more possible gun malfunctions competing against smokeless.

It really just needs to go back the way it was, the three in the class rule for an award is where it should have stopped and in fact I don't even care about that. It's not like we are shooting to win a corvette, the awards arent that expensive.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2017, 03:40:38 pm »

I agree with Cliff.  CC
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 04:48:34 pm »

Black powder shooters should be in separate classes with one hand and two hand divisions. Most old military weapons were black powder shooters and that's traditional. SEMPER FIDELIS
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 11:55:28 am »

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I think the NEW classes are a move in the wrong direction . But then we will see when the National Shoot gets here  The numbers will tell the story . I really didn't see the problem with the old classes . Just my opinion .
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2017, 12:24:33 pm »


Aw KRAPOLA!!   I saw the Forum Header and thought this thread was about Shooting "GLASSES" so I went to jump all over it.  I want some new Shooting Glasses.  I don't need nor want new Shooting CLASSES.  Burma Shave
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2017, 02:52:13 pm »

Aw KRAPOLA!!   I saw the Forum Header and thought this thread was about Shooting "GLASSES" so I went to jump all over it.  I want some new Shooting Glasses.  I don't need nor want new Shooting CLASSES.  Burma Shave


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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 12:20:31 pm »

My wife and I joined NCOWS many years ago for the history and the fun of shooting with like minded people. We both shoot very well and it is not a "competition" for us. I understand that some folks like to have their name as the winners in a class and get a trophy for the mantle. I get that. NCOWS has gotten way overboard in the shooting classes. Too many. I am a posse rep and received no input from anyone before the convention last year, so I voted the way I believed most of the people we shoot with would want me to vote. Turns out that I was right in the way I voted. I always want folks to voice their opinion to me about the way NCOWS is going. Thank You
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 07:31:15 pm »

Coffinmaker, I thought just the opposite. I thought it was about classes to learn how to shoot.?? I think that I know how. But I did have my optometrist make me a pair of 'shooting Glasses' some years back. I carried my Match Target Woodsman to her office to sight with while looking through her kaleidoscope machine. She announced to the folks in the store and office not to be alarmed that the was a man with a gun in the office and it was ok. Rather comical until swat shows up. We had no incidents and I had a nice pair of shooting Glasses to attend shooting Classes with. And nobody got hurt.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2018, 08:05:09 am »

Before he retired from public practice, my former optometrist was a retired NG Colonel. When I started talking to him about shooting glasses he knew exactly what I needed. While I don't think I have any problem seeing the front sight with my regular glasses, it always amazes me how much better I shoot when I don't forget to change into the shooting glasses.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2018, 01:05:30 pm »

Before he retired from public practice, my former optometrist was a retired NG Colonel. When I started talking to him about shooting glasses he knew exactly what I needed. While I don't think I have any problem seeing the front sight with my regular glasses, it always amazes me how much better I shoot when I don't forget to change into the shooting glasses.

Are you suppose to look at that thing on the end of the barrel?  I was thinking about filing it off, as it gets in the way of me being able to see the target.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 11:49:17 pm »

Everybody can cool their beans. Iím probably a little early releasing this info, but there is already a motion on the Congress agenda for March to revert to the previous shooting classes, effective immediately upon congress approval. I really donít think anything else needs to be mucked with. We got in this mess last year because of so many class proposals and one did not die on the floor.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2018, 04:50:01 am »

But then if you redefine the traditional to include smokeless duelist you have the ones dealing with the smoke and generally heavier recoil and more possible gun malfunctions competing against smokeless.

It really just needs to go back the way it was, the three in the class rule for an award is where it should have stopped and in fact I don't even care about that. It's not like we are shooting to win a corvette, the awards arent that expensive.

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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2018, 10:39:07 am »

Who ever thought that you would put Seniors in a class with younger folks? Trying to do better you really messed up in many ways. But as long as I can shoot I will, even if you don't score.  Tj
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