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« on: October 08, 2017, 10:36:01 pm »


Troopers, I picked up a project 1917 bolo knife some years ago which was missing the guard and had junky wood. But in my poking around the internet recently I've discovered that while there was a Krag bayonet (I have a very nice 1899 bayonet which matches my 1899 Constabulary Krag) there also was a krag-bolo bayonet along with a krag-bowie bayonet which can go for the paltry sum of 2-4 grand a pop depending on condition! A very good looking curvy hunk of steel. Anyway, I eventually found a pair of repro grips for the bolo but have never put them on as I'll have to cut the grip to install a homemade guard first (which I haven't made yet) and things got in the way. But now I'm thinking that if I have to cut it up anyway why not do something really neat with it. I'm wondering if anyone in the Barracks has a broken Krag bayonet that they don't mind parting with. I have a blade, anybody got the back half? Not trying to build a fake just a reasonable facsimile.


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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 04:37:23 am »

I think Niederlander has a broken krag bayonet. He shot it off the end of his rifle. Shocked

 Roll Eyes I guess that might not do you much good though.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 04:54:40 am »

I have considered this project myself several times. I came up with the scabbard being way more work than the bayonet itself. I have also considered approaching Atlanta Cutlery with having them reproduced in India. I think this may be the best route.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 08:03:20 pm »

I'd settle for a reproduction of the standard U.S. Krag bayonet.  I've been hunting a beater example for a while now with an eye towards a knife conversion. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 08:38:08 pm »

Charles Isaac has an orginal Bolo bayonet, might be able to provide you with dimensions.

Lots of Krag Bayonets on Ebay.  Grab this one with BIN: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-SPANISH-AMERICAN-WAR-Vintage-US-ARMY-KRAG-BAYONET-SCABBARD-Dated-1899-/401388150905?hash=item5d74992079:g:XGoAAOSwSdFZfkLt
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 08:39:43 pm »

Knife Conversion?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Krag-Bayonet-Knife-/202078384079?hash=item2f0ccf6fcf:g:HKEAAOSwuaFZ3XOa
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 09:22:27 pm »

If someone makes a reproduction, I hope it fits better than the repro 1903 bayonet I have. Took an hour or more with a file to get it on the rifle and sorta lock on, but only sorta. And wobbly. I have shot it with bayo mounted with cast/trailboss loads, but I think it'd not stay mounted if I used ball ammo.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 11:29:49 pm »

I found a nice original 1899 bayonet years ago. It stays on my 1899 constabulary rifle fine. Before I found it I carried a Spanish bayonet around as a Cuban 'war souvenir' in my Mills belt as part of my Span Am outfit.

Update-found a donor fleabay Krag bayonet ( no scabbard) that was ground on and the blade looked rough. Something I read in my research - a scabbard is for a weapon while a sheath is for a tool. Makes sense. Anyway I did some tracing and drawing and there should be plenty of blade in my 1917 bolo if I turn the blade slightly to reshape it into a correct Krag bowie profile. Waiting for it to ship. Anybody need bolo scales send me a pm. I'll probably use the bolo sheath until I can build something more correct.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 07:39:14 am »

There's usually a fair selection of standard Krag bayonets on E-bay, just takes money to get one. But usually my money gets tied up in outfitting one of my foreign rifles.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 11:36:56 am »

Here's my drawing. The Krag bayonet is my 1899 model that I used for the drawing and is not to be sacrificed. Way too nice.


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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 10:13:15 pm »

Ebay gets me in trouble.  Meantime, I grabbed a cheap beater off Numrich for a test piece.  It's still something of a work in progress. 

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2017, 09:25:43 am »

New Lower Price!   Tongue

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1900-U-S-Krag-Bowie-Bayonet-with-Sheath-ball-point-intact-LOWER-PRICE/332406035556?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D462ae69e1c034a779c8928aaacde2026%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D202078384079&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2017, 11:42:36 am »

I should buy 2 of them  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 09:36:06 am »

Got a question for y'all. How is the guard of a Krag bayonet attached to the blade/grip? The wood grips came right off as the rivets were never peened on one side. There is a step from the blade side of the guard @.225 thick to the grip side of the guard @.142 thick. I can see the solder on the grip where the pommel attaches?. I would need to slide the guard towards the pommel to attach the bowie blade under the grip panels and then slide it back and re attach it.
 Update---  I figured it out!!! The guard is friction fit to the blade, no pins, no solder, just the step and grips. Used a wood mallet and worked it right off.


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