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« on: September 23, 2017, 08:58:23 am »


I have a 1860 Spencer carbine that was originally brought back from Haiti by a Marine in the very early 1900's. He gave it to my grandfather when he was a kid. It's a standard 22"barrel, 6 groove rifling with a Stabler cut off installed. The barrel and receiver serial numbers match. The serial number is 42752. I will send pics directly after.
The old girl had a VERY tough life. The gun had such a thick coat of rust and pitting that I decided to spend a summer to remove it all. I couldn't stand the neglect and knew it would never leave my ownership. The stamping on top of the receiver is so faint, only a loop can reveal a partial writing. I recently retired from the sheriffs office and I'm ready to turn her into a shooter. I spoke with a gunsmith in 1982 and he thought there would be no problem firing the carbine. I just need a replacement stock and unfortunately a new outer magazine sleeve. (It is sheared off at the receiver. I think I can weld it though. Also needing to drill out and re-thread the cartridge guid screw. It's fused to the receiver. 😩 Any info would be greatly appreciated!










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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2017, 04:37:44 pm »

You could repair that buttstock the old time 1800's way by wrapping it in wet rawhide and tightly stitched.  If the bore is very rough it could be relined to new condition by Bobby Hoyt leaving the exterior in original condition. Just a couple suggestions on keeping replacement parts to a minimum. Great project to take on.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2017, 11:55:59 am »

Thanks for the info. I'm lucky. The bore only has a few small patches. The majority of the rifling fared better than the exterior.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 01:35:44 pm »

Excuse my stupidity...but is there a manufacturer that still makes a modern rimfire round that the Spencer can fire? Or am I forced to buy a center fire block to shoot a modern round? I really don't want to modify the original but if I must, I'll transform the carbine to shoot her again.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 07:50:41 pm »

So Two Flints has advised that my carbine was issued to Company G of the 3rd Iowa Cavalry. Tooooo cool !
I thank Two Flints for his diligence where the history of this rifle is concerned. He is preserving history for us all. I greatly appreciate this.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 07:56:56 pm »

McPherson,

Any updates to offer on the condition of your Spencer?  Any changes, or is it still original?

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 12:51:04 pm »

Iíve got it all back together and the new stocks are on the way. Itís still a all original 1860. Everything is correct except the ladder sight was replaced with a 1865 sight.  Itís how it came to my family but Iím going to spend the extra fifty bucks to put the correct ladder sight on it. Why stop now! So all I have left to do is install the center fire breach block.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 09:26:57 pm »

I failed to mention...if you look at the hammer side of the original butt stock, you can see two notches carved in the stock. They are both really dark and typicall of a mark placed within period. There is also a deliberate notch cut on top of the butt stock. As a kid, we were told of notches on the grip of a gun. These must be real! They are dark aged, so I believe they are vintage.
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