John, I got a .481 Noe plug for my Lee universal expander die and with it I can now dial in the case mouth to fit the heel of my bullet perfectly. I'm also using the flat face of the plug to seat the bullet. Here is my next batch of experimental ammo for the gunsmith new model. From left to right fire formed case , .490 round ball (will not cycle through action ) , .482 Beagled 480 Ruger bullet .720 long, .485 Accurate custom bullet .70 long. Since the round ball load will not cycle, it is just a test to see if it will group. Jw