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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2017, 03:30:50 pm »

I believe all the non-military classes will be the same as always.  Your '86 would be Militia, I believe.
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2017, 04:42:31 pm »

Yep, the 1886 is a Militia class weapon, no change there.  This only affects Victorian Military Specification rifles.  Expansion era is unchanged.  Civilian classes are unchanged.

1886 is the Date the French introduced the Mle 1886 Lebel, the 1st Smokeless military rifle fielded. Nearly all military rifle designs subsequent to this were intended for the use of Smokeless/semi Smokeless powder.  There are a very few Transitional rifles from this period that will be handled on a case by case basis.  The early Mannlicher wedge locks come to mind.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2017, 06:53:14 pm »

So, will the rifles still be divided into single shot and repeater in their respective categories?
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2017, 08:21:05 pm »

So, will the rifles still be divided into single shot and repeater in their respective categories?
Bat, I'm sure you're only asking this question for clarification, because why the hell would someone who can successfully engage all the rifle targets, a(at rifle ranges) with a sidearm be concerned? It is wonderful to watch by the way!
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2017, 11:10:18 pm »

No, the only division will be year and powder type.  But only for the Military Rifle classes.  All others are unchanged.   http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,17271.0.html
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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2017, 12:01:14 am »

Hi

So, if I shoot 1911 handgunner in the Expansion era match, I can carry 80 rounds of 45 ACP because I get 60 rounds of rifle, and 20 rounds of pistol (all goes in the same 1911).  I could shoot a 1903 Springfield like Bat did in the long range portion of the match, but I don't have one.  What limitations on long range rifles would be in the expansion era match?

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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2017, 02:18:34 pm »

Yes, that is correct.  

Long range rifles use full power ammunition, you get 15 rounds, with 3 hits required on successive 100-200-300 yard targets each.  The rifle should be the same era as your Skirmish gun, if not the same gun.  In the expansion match, all guns are from the 1900-1916 time frame.  

 The Expansion era handgunner has an almost unlimited rifle selection, as long as he can reasonable justify its use with his persona.  The 1911's natural rifle would be the 1903.  But a battlefield pickup could be most any small ring mauser, or rolling block, both heavily used in the phillipines.  Marines in China in 1900 picked up "Commission" 1888 rifles.  An officer involved in the China Relief Expedition of 1900 (Boxer Rebellion) could possibly claim a rifle "acquired" from any of the nations involved!  A civilian "Fillibuster" persona could use a Winchester 30-30.  

The Boxer Rebellion is a treasure trove of weapon possibilities, and its 1900 date means it can be used for both the Victorian Main Match and the Expansion era match.

I've thought of passing as a Masters Mate off the SS Gussie, a well known gunrunner in Cuban Waters, wielding a Webley Top Break and a Mauser 91 bought in the weapons black market of Buenos Aires . . . In fact, come to think of it, I'll do exactly that for this weekends "Hi-wye-an floweredy shirt match" at my local SASS club (which has a military category just for us GAF types.) 
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2017, 02:17:33 pm »

Hi Jerry

How many IS sold out?  I couldn't put in for vacation yet, it don't go that far.  Just use last year's registration form?

Mike Schroeder


Ha, signed up for vacation today.

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« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2017, 08:20:12 am »

After a great time last year don't plan on missing next year. Question I plan on shooting my trap door but as Spanish Am War period. I would think they still shoot  black power. But that is passed the the post 1886 date so can I load trailboss?  Lots of time to load either.
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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2017, 09:20:54 am »

You can load either.  The period you portray has nothing to do with it.  It is only a means to classify the rifle.  If you shoot smokeless in the Trapdoor, you will be classed as a smokeless powder military rifle.

The rule only works one way:  All we're really saying is if you have a rifle that was designed for Smokeless (say, a Krag) you cannot load it with Black powder and be classed with Black powder rifles.  Black powder designed rifles (Trapdoors, etc) may use either powder, but will be classed accordingly.

I would reccomend BP loading:  It is correct for your portrayal, and you will be classed with other BP rifles.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2017, 10:26:54 am »

Expect to hear "A peculiar drumming sound" coming from the vicinity of San Juan Hill.

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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2017, 08:30:42 pm »

"Its the Gatling men!  Our Gatling!"
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2017, 08:31:22 pm »



Will start coordinating with Col Strong to get "it" on the supply wagon going west.

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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2017, 12:26:46 pm »

Per Col. Paul Rosewitz (the worlds foremost authority on the Mountain Howitzer), during the Indian war era Gatling guns were paired up with Mountain Howitzers. 

If the Gatling is coming I will bring the Mountain Howitzer.


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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2017, 07:58:24 pm »

Cool!  Then we'll have two!  And a Gatling!
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2017, 01:08:35 am »

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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2017, 02:15:04 am »

Anyone got a Colt tater digger?
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2017, 05:51:36 am »

I've got a plan for a .22LR version if someone would donate a Ruger 10/22 action.  It would work great on the quarter scale Blunt targets we have.
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2017, 06:14:57 am »

And you should see the targets he's built this fall!  Shocked Cool
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2017, 12:22:19 pm »

If the Gatling is coming I will bring the Mountain Howitzer.
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So does this mean you are definitely coming? That's Awesome!

I have confirmed that unless something completely unforeseen happens, the Gatling will be at the 2018 Grand Muster and will be a guest gun on the San Juan Hill stage. This means each participant will put one full magazine through the Gatling, mowing down as many of the stage targets as possible with it.

If you needed added incentives to make the trip to central Nebraska, I would think this would be it.
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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2017, 11:12:34 am »

I just put it on the calendar.  They have to live without me at the Lodge Fireworks stand.


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« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2017, 07:24:15 pm »

I've got a plan for a .22LR version if someone would donate a Ruger 10/22 action.  It would work great on the quarter scale Blunt targets we have.

How do you propose getting that arm under the barrel to attach and operate?  It just wouldn't be a Potato Digger with out the arm, that gave the gun it's nickname slapping back and forth out there.

You can't have my 10-22, it looks like a Thompson now.  http://www.1022fungun.com/store/


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« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2017, 08:26:24 pm »

I know that was a pretty iconic feature, but we'll just have to live without that, I'm afraid.
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« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2017, 05:48:46 pm »



Reckon I should get me some reservations somewhere!!  Did not get in touch with Col Strong this weekend as too much stuff piling up and Honey wanting my company.  So will set a date to meet with him and work out arrangements to get "IT" on the wagon.  Oh yes will mail off registration tomorrow if I don't forget again!!

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« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2017, 11:20:23 am »

For only $5000 you could have a real potato digger, well sort of, it just a display gun.

https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-u-s-wwi-marlin-colt-m1895-potato-digger-display-gun?variant=5317552341030&trk_msg=1JB41CGEEGTK14DTISJN2PVLK4&trk_contact=6EJ5NRGQIMV1SSVNVA58085SDK&trk_sid=6RAGR6FGFI65P9H6OEPSKR644S&utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=Product&utm_campaign=20171117&utm_content=20171117
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