Javascript DHTML Drop Down Menu Powered by dhtml-menu-builder.com
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 20, 2017, 02:11:09 pm

Login with username, password and session length

Search:     Advanced search
* Home FlashChat Help Calendar Login Register
Currently there are 0 Users in the Cas City Chat Rooms!
Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L  |  Special Interests - Groups & Societies  |  USFA CSS (Moderator: Capt. John Fitzgerald)  |  Topic: Nettleton questions. 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Nettleton questions.  (Read 1428 times)
LonesomePigeon
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 276


« on: June 25, 2017, 01:03:33 am »


If only I had $1,900. Henry Nettleton .45 Colt with 5 1/2" barrel.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/660114310
Since this forum has been slow I'll ask some questions.
1. The cartouche on the right side stock appears to be HN for Henry Nettleton. Whose initials are on the left side cartouche?
2. The left side cartouche also has "1878" above it. Is a 5 1/2" barrel historically accurate for an 1878 Nettleton inspected SAA?
3. Lastly, regardless of historical accuracy, what barrel lengths did USFA offer on the Nettleton?
Logged
Tascosa Joe
NCOWS
Top Active Citizen
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2124


« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2017, 10:08:30 am »

I will get my Nettleton out and check the cartouche's.  5 1/2 " barrel is not historically correct.  The 5 1/2 barrel US pistols aka Artillery Models were cut down by the arsenal about the time of the SA war.

I bought mine new several years back and paid about $1500 then.  $1900 is a good price IMO.
Logged

NRA Life, TSRA Life, NCOWS  Life,
Capt. John Fitzgerald
Deputy Marshal
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1009



« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2017, 07:43:18 pm »

Not sure that we can say that the 5 & 1/2" models are not "historically correct."  To do that, we must assume that none of the Nettleton models were ever cut down.  Hopefully, Gary Granger will step in and educate us all. Smiley
Logged

You can't change the wind, but you can always change your sails.
Coffinmaker
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 4259


« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2017, 08:50:41 pm »

When we speak of "authenticity," it matters not what USFA or Uberti or Alfred E. Neuman manufactures.  It matters what was done when to what by USG Armorers.  We don't necessarily know what was sent back for re-hab when nor why.  Ergo, I don't think we can positively state one way or the other.  At this point in time, since the gun is a reproduction, does it really matter??  I don't really want to be too flip (you believe that ... right??) but with a reproduction ... ah .. who cares??

coffinmaker

PS:  I'm a dry hole for what barrel length was offered on the Nettleton guns by USFA.  Original Colt guns, on the other hand, were 7 1/2.
Logged
Pettifogger
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3479


« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 12:14:00 pm »

When we speak of "authenticity," it matters not what USFA or Uberti or Alfred E. Neuman manufactures.  It matters what was done when to what by USG Armorers.  We don't necessarily know what was sent back for re-hab when nor why.  Ergo, I don't think we can positively state one way or the other.  At this point in time, since the gun is a reproduction, does it really matter??  I don't really want to be too flip (you believe that ... right??) but with a reproduction ... ah .. who cares??

coffinmaker

PS:  I'm a dry hole for what barrel length was offered on the Nettleton guns by USFA.  Original Colt guns, on the other hand, were 7 1/2.

Absolutely true.  I just inspected three of my Alfred E. Newman's.  One with a 3 5/16 barrel, one with a 4 7/8 and one with an 8 3/4".  Each was absolutely authentic.
Logged
Capt. John Fitzgerald
Deputy Marshal
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1009



« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 05:03:26 pm »

Good for you, Pettifogger!   apparently "Ol' Alfred E" really knew how to replicate a handgun!  Grin

Even though a reproduction SAA (be it USFA, Uberti, ASM, etc.), there is nothing wrong in wanting one that is a historically correct representation.
 
Logged

You can't change the wind, but you can always change your sails.
hatman
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 218


« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2017, 01:35:58 am »

Does anyone know if this is an all-USA made revolver?
Logged
LonesomePigeon
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 276


« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2017, 12:45:17 am »

 hatman I am no expert, having got my first USFA only a couple months ago. That said, I do believe the Nettleton I linked to at the top of the page is indeed a 100% American made USFA. I base this on the following:
1) The pamphlet in pic 2 with the picture of the Indian says right at the bottom "100% American made".
2) The ejector rod housing has a slot with a gradual taper. Uberti's had a sharp taper.
3) The cylinder flutes are wide and do not extend past the cylinder notches. Uberti's had narrower, more pointed flutes that the points went past the cylinder notches.
Logged
yahoody
NCOWS
Top Active Citizen
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 797



« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 03:26:41 pm »

Quote
1) The pamphlet in pic 2 with the picture of the Indian says right at the bottom "100% American made".

Ya, that was a joke from the very beginning at USPFA and USFA after them.  It was simply untrue until very late in their history.

Is this one USA made?  Yes.

Neddleton gun's serial numbers?

Serial numbers:
123093 is a early Uberti Neddleton with a USFA roll marked barrel built "under the blue dome".

HN 47169 Uberti gun
HN 47191 Uberti
HN 47238  Uberti

HN 47273 (5.5")
HN 47280  USA gun
HN 47346  USA
HN 47472  USA

HN 47238 is a Uberti

The hammer and front sight clearly show a USA made gun.  A US made 5 1/2" Nettleton is extremely rare and likely made up to match an original Colt with the same serial number.  I've only seen one other 5.5" USA made Inspector Series ...and I own it.   The price on this one is a lot less than what I paid for mine.
 


 
Logged

"time leaves tombstones or dry bones"  SASS #2903
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L  |  Special Interests - Groups & Societies  |  USFA CSS (Moderator: Capt. John Fitzgerald)  |  Topic: Nettleton questions. « previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.048 seconds with 22 queries.