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Dan Gerous
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« on: May 28, 2017, 12:52:12 pm »


I have aquestion for the most intelligent and well-informed group in the known universe! did the hats of the 1870s have liners and sweat bands? I'm wondering if I can take a too small hat, remove the sweat band, and stretch it out. I have along narrow head and if I get one big enough to fit, it costs an arma and a leg and I tend to disappear under it!
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2017, 01:16:26 pm »

Even if they had those items originally, I doubt you'd find anyone who would declare that the owners kept them original for very long.  I wear a size 8 and all but one my hats, an Irish Eight Piece "newsboy's cap", has lost the inner sweat band and nearly none have the original hat band.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2017, 01:26:24 pm »

Yep they did. 

Got a question, why would you not think they had them.

Do yourself a favor and take a dress makers (fabric) tape and measure around your head where the hat rides and report back to me, you might be surprised what I can tell you to do to make it fit right. Wink

(Trust me, I used to be a professional and haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn in almost 25 years.)
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2017, 03:58:08 pm »

Ha!! 4 T Rodz a FATHEAD  Grin

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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2017, 05:36:58 pm »

Ha!! 4 T Rodz a FATHEAD  Grin

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I honestly have no idea how some of you pinheads have mental capacity in your tiny little skulls to operate your autonomic systems enough to keep your blood flowing and to help you breathe.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2017, 07:01:39 pm »

Point to 40 Rod.

Coffinmaker....would you care to rebut?
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2017, 07:31:06 pm »

You bet Coffin will rebut ! May take him a bit , Low oxygen up there Ya know! ,,DT
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2017, 11:17:30 pm »

Forty Rod is a fathead?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2017, 12:11:56 am »

I am not fat!  I am circumferentially challenged.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2017, 06:03:54 am »

I honestly have no idea how some of you pinheads have mental capacity in your tiny little skulls to operate your autonomic systems enough to keep your blood flowing and to help you breathe.

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I am not fat!  I am circumferentially challenged.


I would point out to those, who might cast aspersions ,  fat is relative , I'm in shape ! .... Round is a shape

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2017, 11:43:52 am »

HEY ..... HEY ...... HEY ..... HEY ....... (Famous Cartoon Line)   Grin

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2017, 11:53:18 am »

Howdy all and 4T,

It could well be that 4T Rod, like myself, is just a little short for his weight.

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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2017, 12:50:10 pm »

My hat doesn't fit me too well either Forty Rod. Too much hair  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2017, 05:28:36 pm »

Would you like to rent me some of your hair?  Mine's gettin sparse.
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2017, 06:37:36 pm »

Would you like to rent me some of your hair?  Mine's gettin sparse.
Nope... I'm on borrowed time my friend. I'ma holding on to my freak flag as long as possible  Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2017, 08:54:12 am »

Del, I was asking because I have heard stories of the cowboys buying a new hat and soaking it in the horse trough rhen wearing it until dry to make it fit. I didn't know if there was any truth to this or if it was just a story. If true, I imagine it must have been a shock to the horse the first time he tried to get a drink and found a mass of felt in the way!
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2017, 09:27:15 am »

Del, I was asking because I have heard stories of the cowboys buying a new hat and soaking it in the horse trough rhen wearing it until dry to make it fit. I didn't know if there was any truth to this or if it was just a story. If true, I imagine it must have been a shock to the horse the first time he tried to get a drink and found a mass of felt in the way!
I can imagine that dunking their hat had many purposes. To wash the sweat out of it, to keep their head cool in the Sun, and to clean and reshape it after being abused on the trail.

So, yes, they could have soaked the hat to loosen the felt to fit their head.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2017, 11:02:48 am »

Before you go all Bronco on your Hat...
go back a read what Del said .... ask him !


He made his living shaping & fitting high end and mid-level cost hats ....

or dunk the hat  or run it through a meat grinder ...same out come ruint hat !

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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2017, 11:11:47 am »

Before you go all Bronco on your Hat...
go back a read what Del said .... ask him !


He made his living shaping & fitting high end and mid-level cost hats ....

or dunk the hat  or run it through a meat grinder ...same out come ruint hat !



Very important to know that measurement as well as the hat size so i know what we are dealing with.  As well and more info on the hat in question.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2017, 11:27:35 am »

Only hats of mine I soak are palm leafs to clean, fit and shape as well as in this picture to use on a hot day as a swamp cooler.




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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2017, 11:41:34 am »

"Soaking" a felt hat can result is turning the hat back into what is called a body.  The one in the picture was bought as a body and turned into a hat for a friend.  But how many would have any idea what to do with something that looked like that.

Yes I use water sometimes on felt hats but I never soak them, this falls under what I call "If you have to ask, don't do it."  Wink


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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2017, 11:36:30 am »

Dan Gerous
pick up a new/used or vintage hat stretcher off ebay. if you have more than one lid like i do it will come in very handy. me and the wife use them all the time, 'specially if we find a interesting used hat of some sort at a antique shop or gun show.
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