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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2017, 08:48:33 pm »

Time for "someone" to corner the market on the "old style" Uberti and Pietta SAA hammers and triggers....

bwahahahahaaha!

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2017, 10:13:49 am »

I have confirmed with the Cimarron VP Joe Neuman that Uberti is already shipping the new safety hammer on Cimarron Model Ps as well. Also, even with a custom order, they will not make it with the old style trigger and hammer. Pietta is not making that change to their Frontier models.
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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2017, 12:45:12 pm »

HOORAY! Another useless gun safety!
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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2017, 03:47:34 pm »

Time for "someone" to corner the market on the "old style" Uberti and Pietta SAA hammers and triggers....

bwahahahahaaha!

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Last time I looked, Cimarron had a very large bin of hammers.  But them thangs is expensive!
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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2017, 07:22:39 pm »

Last time I looked, Cimarron had a very large bin of hammers.  But them thangs is expensive!

Just need enough to make sure the old guns keep running forever because Uberti won't be selling me any more new ones.
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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2017, 07:31:22 pm »

I don't know what effect the new hammer is going to have on Uberti sales.  I do know the new hammer makes almost a much sense as a Fart in a Space Suit.

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PS:  And this tom foolery isn't even driven by BATFE.
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2017, 08:07:15 pm »

From what I heard, Coffinmaker is right. It's not being driven by the BATFE. Rather, it is driven by the liability insurance Uberti has to carry.
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2017, 07:19:46 am »

Glad I got the 32/20 from Okla Tom,  before the liability insurance tom foolery settled in.

 
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2017, 08:07:17 pm »

I do give it to them for designing something that keeps the clean hammer and looking like it's supposed to. In one way it's better since the main pin won't be sticking out longer in the front.

It is much better than having that old ugly hammer block contraption on the hammer.

My only thing is how dependable is this going to be, particularly in a gun that runs nothing but black powder. I'd bet it'll require a complete tear down to clean inside that hammer more often and even then I'm just not sure I trust it to work.

My guess is if it gums up and sticks it's as apt to stick in the "fire" position as not..... so it's possible it's even more of a hazard. People start thinking it's safe to load them with all six and then that little plunger gets gummed up and sticks in the hammer leaving the firing pin forward and someone gets injured or killed.


ahh yes but in this process they transferred the blame - insurance and lawyers is all about finding the weak link - someone whose ass is not covered - so now - somebody gets shot - its the gun owners fault for not cleaning it instead of the maker for producing something faulty - the fact that it is now possibly more faulty/dangerous than before means nothing to the legal eagles - they shifted blme away from their client - mission accomplished!

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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2017, 09:29:19 am »

The news I got this morning from Cimarron is that only Model Ps with the Pre War frame will be getting the new Safety Hammer. The Model Ps with the Old Model (black powder) frame will continue to have the old style hammer and trigger.
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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 09:50:00 am »

The Model Ps with the Old Model (black powder) frame will continue to have the old style hammer and trigger.

Are there indications that the Old Model frames will be phased in over time or are they likely to retain the old style hammer and trigger?

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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2017, 09:52:33 am »

Thanks for the update, OklaTom.  Whenever I talk to Joe about it, seems the story changes as those in charge try to decide what to do.
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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2017, 02:35:26 pm »

Thanks for the update, OklaTom.  Whenever I talk to Joe about it, seems the story changes as those in charge try to decide what to do.

I think the story changes depending on who you talk to and when.  But the person there I deal with that seems to be on top of things the best sent me an email today stating "The old models will not ever have the new safety hammer."  That is encouraging to me, since I don't like the Pre-War frame anyway.  Of course, this could change in the future.  Good news is that the OMs still shipping are as they were.
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2017, 03:50:49 pm »

Yes, that is encouraging, although I did justify rushing out and buying a new revolver when the "safety" was announced...

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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2017, 04:03:46 pm »

I've said it before, engineers got to 'improve' their products in order to justify their continued employment. No matter what the customer wants. Horizontal fins or vertical fins? And then you throw a safety guy and a liability lawyer in the room and LOOK OUT!
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2017, 04:29:00 pm »

When you have a sleek and powerful sports sedan with all the bells and whistles, and you add a Safety Puke, a stylist guru, an interior designer and a Parts Department Hack, with an Insurance Consultant, you get an AMC PACER.

Turn all those folks lose with a Single Action and you'll wind up with a 2 inch X 4 Inch X 8 inch piece of blu'd solid steel bar.

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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2017, 05:26:03 pm »

...Turn all those folks lose with a Single Action and you'll wind up with a 2 inch X 4 Inch X 8 inch piece of blu'd solid steel bar...

Gee, I dunno.  A steel bar is still pretty dangerous, better change it to rubber.
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« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2017, 05:28:13 pm »

Gee, I dunno.  A steel bar is still pretty dangerous, better change it to rubber.

Better make it orange rubber with warning labels ("BEFORE USING THIS RUBBER BLOCK READ THE OWNER'S MANUAL!  CHOKING HAZARD!  DISPOSE OF PROPERLY!").

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« Reply #43 on: July 05, 2017, 05:34:04 pm »

I think the story changes depending on who you talk to and when.  But the person there I deal with that seems to be on top of things the best sent me an email today stating "The old models will not ever have the new safety hammer."  That is encouraging to me, since I don't like the Pre-War frame anyway.  Of course, this could change in the future.  Good news is that the OMs still shipping are as they were.

Glad to hear that....
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« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2017, 06:06:12 pm »

Oops!! Waited too long, it's been recalled, safety defect small parts, choking hazard. Check the serial number and return to the factory for the updated version.
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« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2017, 08:45:13 pm »

... But the person there I deal with that seems to be on top of things the best...

I'm guessing that would be Val  Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2017, 10:13:01 pm »

I'm guessing that would be Val  Smiley
Wink I trust her to be the one to get it right.

And if all that is correct I don't really care since I'm like Bryan, all I care for is the OM black powder frames anyway. That said I'm getting a couple new ones and some parts out of their current stock just in case.
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« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2017, 09:09:13 pm »

I am glad to hear the Uberti Old Model P will remain true to the originals. I still want to get a pair of .44-40 and a pair of .32-20 so it's good to know Uberti will be an option.
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« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2017, 11:51:50 pm »

I am glad to hear the Uberti Old Model P will remain true to the originals. I still want to get a pair of .44-40 and a pair of .32-20 so it's good to know Uberti will be an option.

I'm hoping it stays that way. While Pietta is not planning on making a change, choice of caliber is limited to three: 357 Mag, 44-40, and 45 Colt.
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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2017, 02:46:17 pm »

Candy a$$ed, lawyer pacifiers.  Angry     (and with a republican in the White House no less).
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