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Rick53
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« on: April 26, 2017, 01:03:43 pm »


  I own a 45 Colt  EMF Alchemista . When I insert My base pin My cylinder just spins freely : Whether I have the hammer cocked or not. If I cock the hammer the cylinder moves to the next spot. It just doesn't lock in place. It would be stupid to even dare firing because the Throat easily gets off line with the barrel.

I am guessing something is broke . I just don't see how or what . Any Ideas? Thanks Much
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 04:44:44 pm »

Maybe you have a broken bolt spring. Or worse a broken bolt.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 05:38:18 pm »

Maybe you have a broken bolt spring. Or worse a broken bolt.
That's what I thought : Bolt appears as New: Spring is different then the norm it's just wire .And no the screw looked like that to begin with

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 06:25:30 pm »

Rick 53,
I'm going to hope you didn't do that cause I'm gonna be insulting.  I've seen some really Micky Mouse stuff in the years I was a practicing Gunplumber.  And THAT is really Micky Mouse.  Either contact EMF, or VTI Gunparts and order up a new Pietta Trigger/Bolt spring and screw.  Then pull the bolt, insure it fits the cylinder notches, then polish the frame contact side of the bolt and the top of the bolt where the spring rides.  Should fix the problem.

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PS:  I never recommend wire T/B springs.  To me, makes the action feel mushy.  I use the Pietta T/B spring for ALL my action work, including Uberti.  Oh, you need the T/B spring for SAs.  NOT for Percussion.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 07:01:40 pm »

My Dear Rick -

where did you get the pistol? Is it "new to you?"
that "spring" looks like a piece of safety pin cut with Bell Co. Wire cutters  Lips Sealed

Please follow Coffin's advice, you wont go wrong.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 08:17:13 am »

Rick 53,
I'm going to hope you didn't do that cause I'm gonna be insulting.  I've seen some really Micky Mouse stuff in the years I was a practicing Gunplumber.  And THAT is really Micky Mouse.  Either contact EMF, or VTI Gunparts and order up a new Pietta Trigger/Bolt spring and screw.  Then pull the bolt, insure it fits the cylinder notches, then polish the frame contact side of the bolt and the top of the bolt where the spring rides.  Should fix the problem.

Coffinmaker

PS:  I never recommend wire T/B springs.  To me, makes the action feel mushy.  I use the Pietta T/B spring for ALL my action work, including Uberti.  Oh, you need the T/B spring for SAs.  NOT for Percussion.
I've never taken it apart before: It's roughly 2 years old. I never used it until recently: Fortunately I was using dummy rounds when I noticed it. So apparently this must be home they come from EMF.   
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 08:55:18 am »

Just saw this...  I responded elsewhere   Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 10:05:03 am »

Just saw this...  I responded elsewhere   Shocked

Thought I should move it to the Gunsmithing section . I didn't see that or I'd have posted there to begin with So which Gun do I order parts for . What I have is a combination of a 1873 with and 1860 Grip Frame.

So which parts exactly do I need :
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 12:56:29 pm »

Just order a Pietta SAA bolt spring ....

Code
SAA5287
SAA5287 Description
Pietta Trigger Bolt Spring (1873 SA, AWA, ASM, Colt 1st & 2nd)

get the screw too  ....
SAA5517
SAA5517 Description
Pietta Trigger Spring Screw (1873 SA, AWA, ASM, Colt 1st & 2nd)
 Price
US $3.95

or

SAA5510/IX
SAA5510/IX  Description
Pietta Trigger Spring Screw Stainless (1873 SA, GWII)
 Price
US $5.95


VTI Replica Gun Parts
Address PO Box 509
Lakeville CT 06039
USA
Phone 860-435-8068
Fax 860-435-8146
Email mail@vtigunparts.com

EDIT: sorry I had to get to my home computer to post the part # (work computer has block on Firearms related sites ) Not Cas City thankfully ...

You say the gun " It's roughly 2 years old "

I doubt, you'll get any help after 2 years ... the parts are cheap , go that route
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