Javascript DHTML Drop Down Menu Powered by dhtml-menu-builder.com
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 24, 2017, 12:44:46 am

Login with username, password and session length

Search:     Advanced search
* Home FlashChat Help Calendar Login Register
Currently there are 0 Users in the Cas City Chat Rooms!
Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L  |  Special Interests - Groups & Societies  |  Frontier Iron (Moderator: St. George)  |  Topic: Schofield question-update 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Schofield question-update  (Read 1887 times)
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« on: February 14, 2017, 10:34:31 am »


     I got my new Cimarron Schofield today. The hammer is supposed to have 3 positions, half cock, full cock, and down after firing. When the hammer is down after firing the frame latch won't move and the gun can't be opened.

     Here's my question. If I load it with snap caps and pull the trigger, the hammer drops all the way down and the latch won't move. But if I cock the gun and ease the hammer down on an empty chamber while holding the trigger back the hammer doesn't lower all the way and the latch can still be moved.  

       What's going on here?

                      Thanks
Logged
Coffinmaker
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 4266


« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2017, 12:52:03 pm »

It isn't suppose to open with the hammer down.  It's suppose to open at half-cock.  If your lowering the hammer gently and it doesn't go all the way down, there is a rough spot/burr/drag spot somewhere that prevents the hammer from full travel without real pressure on the hammer.  I would guess the hammer/hammer channel/lock works could use some judicious rubbin-n-buffin.

Coffinmaker
Logged
Scattered Thumbs
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1265



« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2017, 03:24:57 pm »

What Coffinmaker said.
The hammer down prevents it from opening. It's an original safety feature.
Logged
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2017, 04:38:02 pm »

     I know it shouldn't open with the hammer down. I see where that's not clear from the way I worded it. I'll try firing it with the snap caps some more and see if any possible burrs smooth out. If not, than I guess I'll have to have someone look at it.   

                      Thanks for the answers
Logged
Scattered Thumbs
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1265



« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 03:05:16 am »

Ha! Didn't understood well the first time.

But, what you describe seems related to the hammer block safety that Uberti has added to the Schofield.

From half cock. If you ease your hammer down it won't go all the way forward because of the safety.
Logged
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 09:03:19 am »

     The problem I have is that if I ease it down from full cock it won't go all the way down.

     I spent some more time with it yesterday and I noticed that if I pull the hammer back from all the way down there is a click that I can hear and feel before I reach half cock and the hammer will stay there.  It's like it has a quarter cock position. I think you're right about it being to do with the safety.

     The gun works fine except for this. I'm wondering if I should just not worry about it. The only thing is that after unloading the gun I can't lower the hammer all the way. It stops at this "quarter cock" position.

     Will this cause problems down the road? 
Logged
Coffinmaker
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 4266


« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 12:36:45 pm »

to be quite honest and not to pick on ya ........ but ......  Roll Eyes

Presently yer "over-thinking" it.  Here is the bottom line.  If the the hammer falls when you pul the trigger, and the gun fires every time, you don't have a problem.  If the latch works as advertised at Half Cock, you don't have a problem.  As long as you don't try to carry it around with six loaded, you don't have a problem.  As long as you can get the cap off your bottle of Ale after you shoot, you don't have a problem.  Leave it alone and enjoy playing with it.

Coffinmaker

PS:  Don't try and run it with BP or Subs.  It won't be a Harmonious outcome.
Logged
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 02:35:05 pm »

     Thanks Coffinmaker. I suspected it wasn't really a problem but wasn't sure. It's good to hear it from someone who knows more about it than me.
Logged
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2017, 06:23:12 pm »

     Well, I still haven't fired the gun, only snap caps. When I pulled the trigger today the hammer won't fall all the way. It stops at the "quarter cock" position, so it wouldn't be able to fire.  There has to be something wrong with the safety.

      I was going to shoot it for the first time this Monday.  Instead, I'll be sending it back for warranty repair. What a disappointment.

Logged
Coal Creek Griff
Top Active Citizen
*
Online Online

Posts: 1213


With Cheyenne Luke


« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2017, 06:38:55 pm »

My first Schofield had the same issue, except that the hammer never dropped all the way.   It made me wonder how they test-fired it.  I had to return it to Taylor's, who replaced it.  The second one has been great for several years now.  Maybe it's a family thing,  assuming that Griffith is your last name too.

Coal Creek Griff(ith)
Logged

BOLD #921
BOSS #196
1860 Henry Rifle Shooter #173
SSS #573
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2017, 06:47:36 pm »

     My hammer doesn't drop all the way now either. Griffith isn't my real name, just a user name.

     I hope they don't take too long getting it back to me.
Logged
Major 2
"Still running against the wind"
Deputy Marshal
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10298


Cracker Cow Cavalry


« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2017, 11:15:51 pm »

Mine ( actually a #3 )  went bang all 5 times of the first rounds through it .... Smiley

but hit well left of center  Huh  learned something

unlike a SAA with it's narrow trigger and plow handle grip , the #3 trigger is wide and a round almost mop handle like grip.

I had to adjust my point of contact on the trigger to the tip, I also replaced the OEM Walnut with a set of (oval) S&W hard Rubber grips.

adjusting my hold the gun shoots POI


* #3 with Carrico Holster.JPG (139.83 KB, 745x673 - viewed 58 times.)

* trigger finger 2.jpg (9.3 KB, 199x300 - viewed 47 times.)

* #3 & 38 New Depature.JPG (231.44 KB, 640x480 - viewed 55 times.)
Logged
Cliff Fendley
NCOWS
Top Active Citizen
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2901



« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2017, 01:46:51 pm »

That hammer black safety gismo in the Uberti Schofields can cause problems. It did in both mine and my wifes Schofields. But it doesn't any more Wink
Logged

http://www.fendleyknives.com/

NCOWS 3345  RATS 576 NRA Life member

Johnson County Rangers
Blair
NCOWS
Top Active Citizen
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2231



« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2017, 03:07:03 pm »

I have to say, as soon as I got any of my repro S@W's, I took the hammer block safety and spring out.

I had been working on several original S@W's for sometime before I bought any new ones. The hammer block safety only seemed to add problems to the over all working of the revolver.
My best,
 Blair
Logged

A Time for Prayer.
"In times of war and not before,
God and the soldier we adore.
But in times of peace and all things right,
God is forgotten and the soldier slighted"
by Rudyard Kipling.
Blair Taylor
Life-C 21
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2017, 03:33:10 pm »

     I would consider removing it for as long as I own the gun, but I can't do it myself and don't know anybody who would do it.
Logged
Coal Creek Griff
Top Active Citizen
*
Online Online

Posts: 1213


With Cheyenne Luke


« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2017, 11:46:10 am »

I'm not going to confirm or deny that I removed the safety on my Schofield, but it must have fallen out at some point or something because it isn't there anymore  Wink.  On the other hand, I did make sure that the initial problems were repaired (in my case a placement gun was shipped) before I did anything with the internals.  I wanted the gun to function right with or without the safety installed.

CC Griff
Logged

BOLD #921
BOSS #196
1860 Henry Rifle Shooter #173
SSS #573
Major 2
"Still running against the wind"
Deputy Marshal
Top Active Citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 10298


Cracker Cow Cavalry


« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2017, 05:52:40 am »

left field chiming in again....not a Schofield but still a #3

there is no hammer black safety nonsense on the new Model #3 
Logged
griffith
Active citizen
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 25


« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2017, 04:42:19 pm »

     Well, I finally got my Schofield back from the warranty repair yesterday. Everything seems okay now. It looks like I'll finally get a chance to shoot it. I sure hope there aren't any more problems.

                     Griffith
Logged
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L  |  Special Interests - Groups & Societies  |  Frontier Iron (Moderator: St. George)  |  Topic: Schofield question-update « previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.065 seconds with 21 queries.