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« on: February 10, 2017, 01:13:48 am »


What was the first year the Custer Battlefield was offered?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 10:05:17 am »

Not sure what you mean by "offered".  Do you mean when was it first open to the public? If so, I believe it was open to anyone right from day 1.  Certain restrictions were put on when the park service took it over, such as, opening and closing times and areas where one could walk.  Also, it is on Crow land and they may of had some restrictions in the past.

Are we on the same page?
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 12:52:54 pm »

Sorry, the "Custer Battlefield" is a gun made by USFA. A copy of the original Colt SAA's issued to the 7th Cavalry, only it has an antique finish to make it look old. I was wondering what year these were first offered and if that would put them in the 100% American made timeframe?
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 02:08:49 pm »

Oh, that Custer Battlefield  Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 02:55:44 pm »

Why would you want to buy something purposely made to look worn?

During the era, these revolvers were brand-spankin' new - they got that worn look by being carried and used for decades.

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 07:53:04 pm »

St George,

The idea is to take a really nice, new, beautifully finished Single Action (insert Name Here), and attack it with abrasives and solvents, to make it appear like it's 130 years old and none of the previous owners took care of it.  Then you drag it around and brag to anyone who will listen, how you made it look just like any other old beat up gun.  Some of those folks will even go "whoa .. real cool."  All in the interest of "style."  I've never actually figured out the "why" nor the perceived "style."

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 02:10:03 am »

I'm not particularly fond of antique finishes. The reason I would buy one is because they have correct features relating to a 1st Gen Colt and because the 100% American made USFA's are reputed to be very well made. I think it would be easier and cheaper to refinish a Custer than it would be to rework, restamp and then still have to refinish another SAA to make it look more like a 1st Gen. Or I could wait for a Nettleton or Ainsworth but all these models are hard to find and if you see one you have to jump on it.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 09:00:31 am »

St George,

The idea is to take a really nice, new, beautifully finished Single Action (insert Name Here), and attack it with abrasives and solvents, to make it appear like it's 130 years old and none of the previous owners took care of it.  Then you drag it around and brag to anyone who will listen, how you made it look just like any other old beat up gun.  Some of those folks will even go "whoa .. real cool."  All in the interest of "style."  I've never actually figured out the "why" nor the perceived "style."

Coffinmaker

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 10:56:58 am »

So I found online some USFA catalogs and it appears the Custer Battlefield was not offered in 2004 but it was offered in 2005. Anybody know of any reference to the CB prior to 2005? If 2005 is the first year, would that put them well within the 100% American made timeframe?
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 01:30:00 pm »

Not to Pick on You, but research would indicate Cimarron offers a correctly marked Uberti, BP Frame (CCH) 7th Cavalry reproduction.  I fear it would take precious little "re-working."  It would also appear "as issued" rather than "buried in the garden."  Also, at about a quarter the current Tariff for a limited run USFA.  $500 a pop is a lot to pay for a half dozen moving parts??

Be me ..... be perusing Cimarron's offering and saving a gob of folding money.

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2017, 11:13:53 pm »

Lonesome Pigeon,

I recently purchased one and mine exhibits all the hallmarks of a USA made USFA - having said that, I have no confirmation and am interested as well.  I can confirm that the hammer and loading gate appear on mine do appear to be the later, USA made configuration.  My serial number is 66xx.  I am also interested to know how many were actually produced. 

One addl note, as the Custer guns were inspected by Ainsworth, I believe they are identical to the Ainsworth guns with the exception of finish and serial number.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2017, 05:41:58 pm »

The problem with the Uberti-made Cimarron CB is that the firing pin is NOT period correct Ist Gen the way the USFA gun is & for me, that makes all the difference. jd45
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2017, 07:18:49 pm »

I don't have any helpful information either, just to say: everyone's got something different that floats their boat. For some people, it's disco music. For others, it's kite flying. I have it on good authority that there's a not insignificant number of people who like to dress up like cowboys on the weekends (can you believe it)? Other people like the old-fashioned look but can't afford the real thing.

Pigeon, do what makes you happy, and don't let anyone else make you feel bad about it.  Smiley

Good luck finding your gun the way you want it!
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2017, 09:26:42 pm »

Swoobie, congrats on getting a Custer!

I posted in another thread that I did get a Custer too. I do believe it is 100% American made and that all Custer's are 100% American made. I can find no reference to Custer's existing prior to 2005, which should put them well within the 100% American made timeframe. The one I have is outstanding in every way. Perfect timing, solid lockup, four loud clicks, no burrs or rough spots anywhere and it shoots right to point of aim just like I wanted. While it's true I would rather have an Ainsworth, which is basically a Custer with a blue/CCH finish, I am finding that the Custer finish grows on me.

One thing I discovered in my research that's interesting is I have seen Custer's both with the two line patent dates and three line patent dates.
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