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« on: January 09, 2017, 05:26:26 am »


I don't know if its against the rules, but I found these one Etsy.  I saw one the other day at a gunshow but used my money on a can of blackpowder and my 66 uberti winchester. They also make other "old west" ammo accouterments
https://www.etsy.com/shop/replicana?ref=l2-shopheader-name
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 10:56:55 pm »

Ummm,.... These ..... what??  No picture, no hyper-link,  no double mint gum???  Burma Shave??

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 03:14:45 am »

MY BAD!! sorry i thought i did. Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 09:32:56 pm »

Last actual real honest to goodness original boxes of 44 Henry Flat auctioned for STUPID money.  One went for 600 Bucks and was wrapped in about half a mile of packaging tape to keep it together.  The other one went for a grand and had just a tiny piece of tape on a corner. 

Just a little expensive on a "per shot" basis to be able to play with your shooter grade (10 grand +) Henry.  Or shooter grade original 1866.
Boo Hisssssssssssss.  Expecial with cartridges ya can't reload.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 09:54:37 pm »


Just a little expensive on a "per shot" basis to be able to play with your shooter grade (10 grand +) Henry.  Or shooter grade original 1866.
Boo Hisssssssssssss.  Expecial with cartridges ya can't reload.

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Well actually you can reload rim fires but it's a pain in patoot. Years ago "Backwoods" magazine had an article on it. Apparently you take the white tips off strike anywhere matches. Grind them up and make a slurry. Then you put them in the spent case, chuck it in a drill and spin it fast. The circular force causes it to get in the rim. When you put it in the breech it needs to be orientated so the firing pin will hits opposite of the previous one. Apparently you can get a fair percentage of discharges. Like I said a real pain. Then again if you were stranded with a bunch of spent rim fire cases, some lead, powder and plentiful supply of matches, what would you have to lose?  I have never tried this and just offer it for your amusement.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 01:52:32 am »

I just thought it was cool that you can have a box you can add to your collection
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 06:06:46 am »

Buffalo Arms has them  http://www.buffaloarms.com/Period_Cartridge_Boxes_pr-3816.aspx
a 1/4 that price.

Dixie sells them as well....however

I prefer to make my own @ about  $0.60 each  ...  new Kraft boxes are  $54.00 a 100 count.

 


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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 06:36:39 pm »

Will,
Be you stranded somewhere, where ya gonna plug in the 'Lectric drill??   Grin

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2017, 07:33:17 pm »

Will,
Be you stranded somewhere, where ya gonna plug in the 'Lectric drill??   Grin

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There are many ways to spin the case. One might have a Yankee drill or a brace.


Will Ketchum ( who has no plans on ever reloading rimfire cases.)
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2017, 01:53:41 pm »

Sorry to hi-jack the thread.   I read an article that I wish I could find that some archeologists had found rimfires in the southwest, essentially in Apache country that showed they may have been reloaded several times.  Each had multiple marks on the rim from being hit.   I believe the article indicated they would do what Will is talking about, but using percussion caps and then spinning them by hand.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2017, 04:44:17 pm »

I'd be more inclined to think they were "miss-fires" that had to be ejected, loaded and struck several times.  However, since I wasn't there, and my "Way Back Machine" is on the Fritz so I don't really know.  Don't even have a good guess.  Let the Arche yolo zits figure it out.

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2017, 09:40:17 pm »

I want that  werewolf box !!
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2017, 03:47:55 am »

Buffalo Arms has them  http://www.buffaloarms.com/Period_Cartridge_Boxes_pr-3816.aspx
a 1/4 that price.

Dixie sells them as well....however

I prefer to make my own @ about  $0.60 each  ...  new Kraft boxes are  $54.00 a 100 count.

These are based on the umc boxes

 

These are based on the umc boxes
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2017, 10:20:17 am »

Back when I was young and stupid (now I'm just stupid) a friend and I did reload some 22's to see if it could be done.  With just the slurry, our fire vs. miss fire rate was 1:4.  Then we found by heating the slurry, our rate would improve.  We thought we were onto something until our pan blew up.  I have not tried it since.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2017, 12:16:06 pm »

Sorry to hi-jack the thread.   I read an article that I wish I could find that some archeologists had found rimfires in the southwest, essentially in Apache country that showed they may have been reloaded several times.  Each had multiple marks on the rim from being hit.   I believe the article indicated they would do what Will is talking about, but using percussion caps and then spinning them by hand.

In Southern Alberta, near Lethbridge, there occured the Battle on the Belly. The last great indian/indian fight with a similar scenario to Custer's last battle, but a few years earlier. About 600 Cree thought they'd get some revenge on the Blackfoot. The scouting party thought they'd found a likely target, a sleepy village at dawn. What they didn't see was that there were thousands of Sioux visiting their cousins. Only a handful of Cree made it home!

When the anthropologists got around to doing a survey prior to urban sprawl, they found both empty and misfired .44 Henry and Spencer cases showing multiple strikes. The theory was that through poor storage conditions and age, the ammo had deteriorated, making successful shots uncertain.  (Rattlesnakejack probably has the reference paper.)
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2017, 03:36:57 pm »

I have used .45 Schofield Cheyenne Cartridge boxes with labels glued on with rubber cement.  I use 45 Schofields in mine as a "44 Henry duplication load", so the boxes work great.

I had some really nice labels I made in the past, but have no idea what I did with the JPEG file.  This one I just cobbled up, and resized to 5" by 2 1/2".  The first one is the one I used, but the other two are also re-scalable.


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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2017, 06:26:28 pm »

Would you have the dimensions for the 100 box that was avaliable during the Civil war?
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2017, 07:10:19 pm »

If you check some auction sites like Julia, they may have one.  They usually give dimensions. My Winchester labels books are packed, so that is your best bet. Also try the N-SSA forum, as those boys like Henry rifles, too.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2017, 09:39:30 pm »

I swear I seen someone give dimensions for it here, just can't recall. But I will look. Thanks for the suggestions
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2017, 06:36:37 am »

I swear I seen someone give dimensions for it here, just can't recall. But I will look. Thanks for the suggestions

Look around in here

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,19260.25.html

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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 07:05:08 am »

I actually found the one i was looking for, a older member forum posted it and i found it on his website. now if i can recall the name of the member  Grin
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