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« on: January 04, 2017, 09:19:36 pm »


Yah for me!  Grin
Hope it becomes an addiction. Just my 2nd revolver (I'm a Colt 1911 guy, if you know what I mean)





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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 09:37:26 pm »

Very nice!  I have been thinking about one of these myself.  When did Pietta start building them?  All of the other 7th Cav SAAs I have see were built by Uberti.

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 09:41:33 pm »

It is not a Pietta.
Sorry, STYLE P. I believe Peacemaker?
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 12:14:50 am »

Yah for me!  Grin
Hope it becomes an addiction. Just my 2nd revolver (I'm a Colt 1911 guy, if you know what I mean)


Beautiful weapon, Big Mak.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 08:17:21 am »

I said Pietta because that does not look like Uberti color case work.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 09:32:13 am »

Thanks fellas.

From what I've been told, Cimarron Uberti's have a higher quality standard before they're sold under the Cimarron name.

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 01:50:50 pm »

Thanks fellas.

From what I've been told, Cimarron Uberti's have a higher quality standard before they're sold under the Cimarron name.



You are right Big Mak. I posted this a few days ago, it was very informative. Be sure to watch all three parts though.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,58512.0.html

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 03:06:48 pm »

Thank you for posting that!
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 05:32:59 pm »

nice.
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2017, 07:46:37 pm »

Regarding the higher quality standards.  The actual "quality" of an Uberti made for different importers should be equal (internal parts are the same, with equal fitting).  Cimarron does specify various features on their guns that other importers do not have, mostly regarding cosmetics and markings (and the hammers).   Regarding the case colors, Uberti upped their game in recent years, possibly as a result of Pietta's more colorful frames.

I work for Cimarron so I do know whereof I speak.  Wink

Big Mak, those are nice pics, and I particularly like that you pictured it with the correct basepin screw installed.  I hate seeing nice pics of guns with the ugly knurled thumbscrew in place  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2017, 08:07:31 pm »

PLUS ONE to Abilene.

I normally start a fight when the Cimarron has a "higher standard" stuff shows up.  It isn't true.  There is only one line of guns at Uberti.
There is a difference in Roll Stamps and Marking placement.  That's it.  The rest of the guns are the same, whether the gun has Taylors roll marks, EMF roll marks or Cimarron roll marks.  Same frames, barrels, grips, lock works.  All the same.

Pietta has pushed Uberti real hard.  Really real hard.  After EMF introduced the "new" Great Western II, folks discovered Pietta was building a better mouse trap.  Uberti started to scribble to improve their line.  They have seriously improved their line.  As a retired Gunplumber, I still see the Pietta built guns as the best value for dollar in CAS guns.  Cimarron guns are, for the most part, prettier, but take more work
to set up than Pietta built guns do.  Bottom line though.  You can't really go wrong with either.

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PS:  Almost forgot.  That happens to be a really really nice gun.  
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2017, 04:59:07 pm »

Coupla more fotos outdoors today. The new-ness hasn't worn off yet. Lips Sealed



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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2017, 07:31:47 pm »

OH SNAP !!  Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2017, 08:11:44 pm »

Yeah, never go FULL CUSTER! Well, I just did!  Grin

The trapdoor history: 32" barrel, shipped to Oregon National Guard in 1894 (It has an 1883 cartouche, I have no history before 1894)
Best friends father picked it up in a pawn shop, still in cosmoline, near Tacoma WA in the 1950's.
He bought it to go deer hunting with his BIL who also bought one. BIL's rifle was stolen a few years later.
My best friend's father passed in 2001, and best friend move to Aussie so he had a firearm sale as it's tough to get boom sticks into Oz as an American. Smiley  "Quigley Down Under" no more!

I've been shooting it for 3 years now. Beautiful piece of history, color casing still pristine, bore shiney....but it was lonely. That's my excuse for the Cav revolver! Wife bought the story!
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2017, 10:32:13 pm »

Very nice looking gun Big Mak. Does it have the new retractable firing pin?
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2017, 07:31:50 am »

PLUS ONE to Abilene.

I normally start a fight when the Cimarron has a "higher standard" stuff shows up.  It isn't true.  There is only one line of guns at Uberti.
There is a difference in Roll Stamps and Marking placement.  That's it.  The rest of the guns are the same, whether the gun has Taylors roll marks, EMF roll marks or Cimarron roll marks.  Same frames, barrels, grips, lock works.  All the same.

Pietta has pushed Uberti real hard.  Really real hard.  After EMF introduced the "new" Great Western II, folks discovered Pietta was building a better mouse trap.  Uberti started to scribble to improve their line.  They have seriously improved their line.  As a retired Gunplumber, I still see the Pietta built guns as the best value for dollar in CAS guns.  Cimarron guns are, for the most part, prettier, but take more work
to set up than Pietta built guns do.  Bottom line though.  You can't really go wrong with either.

Coffinmaker

PS:  Almost forgot.  That happens to be a really really nice gun.  
I'm thinkin you meant Uberti not Cimarron.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2017, 09:30:16 am »

Very nice looking gun Big Mak. Does it have the new retractable firing pin?
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2017, 11:01:37 am »

"No sir"

Thanks, I do hope they stay that way.
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2017, 11:58:11 am »

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2017, 07:10:12 pm »

I have a revolver just like this that I bought because of the threat of the retractable firing pins.  I mentioned the possible change and my lovely bride said, "You'd better buy one now."  I took her up on it!

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2017, 10:37:38 pm »

I was just looking again at the pics and noticed the scrape marks on the right side of the hammer.  Too bad.   It's a minor thing, but one that shows a slight lack of precision that I see in a lot of new guns.  Fortunately it doesn't show with the hammer down.   It is easy enough to file or stone down the inside of the hammer cutout in the frame, but the case colors are already scratched on the hammer.  If it bothers you, clean up the cutout so it doesn't rub and then dab some cold blue on the scratches.  I like Dicrophan for this.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2017, 03:11:03 pm »

Normally, I first clean up the hammer channel, then I sacrifice the CCH on the Hammer by polishing off all the burrs for smooth running.

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2017, 03:45:27 pm »

Mini range report.
34 deg with a 45 mph wind blow sideways on the range. DANG it was cold!
I used a standard one grip stance on both the 45 colt and S&W 357 magnum.
I only had 20 rds of 45 colt with me, 10 shot. 1 shot (the first) I think I completely missed the target at 50 feet!
Definitely not a good day to shoot and froze my butt off, thus the low hole count in the paper. With the black sights of the Colt 1873 on the black paper, this wasn't a good combo.

The Cimarron Colt 1873 Cav revolver was a pleasure to shoot! The hammer really functions nice and the trigger breaks crisp, cleanly. I don't have a trigger pull gauge but I would guess it's got a 3 lb pull. Slightly less than the S&W Mod 66 .357 mag.
The one head shot was intentional with the .357 mag.



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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2017, 03:50:31 pm »

Looks like you were on the paper pretty well, given your WX conditions.  Wink
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2017, 01:10:09 am »

Very nice gun and they look very authentic like a real 1st generation Colt.
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