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« on: December 30, 2016, 10:36:28 pm »


Over the years a lot of people have voiced a desire to have a .44 Spcl 1860 Henry.  I know it's been discussed before, but I need a show of hands (or pocketbooks that those hands can reach).  In two weeks it will be Shot Show time and I'll be working the Cimarron booth and hanging around Mike Harvey, and I'd like to put the bug in his ear again with some numbers.  Last time I asked him (maybe 5 years ago) if he'd special order some more .44 Spcl Henries, he said there was no demand.  Keep in mind that you probably would not get a choice as to Military or Civilian, and very unlikely steel frame.  If a one-time batch of them came in, at standard price, would you buy one?  If there is enough response, I will ask him again and report back here.

This is not the topic to discuss why certain calibers are better than others at recreating historic rounds, or better for BP, or what other calibers you would prefer.  These have/are being discussed in other topics.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 10:44:21 pm »

Not in 44 Spl. but I would like one in 44 Russian.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2016, 10:58:17 pm »

Abilene!

Put me done for one!

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2016, 11:36:48 pm »

I'd desire to have a .44 Spcl 1860 Henry...

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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2016, 12:24:09 am »

i can barely afford a 66 winchester, but i'd stay with 45lc.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2016, 12:46:41 pm »

I would certainly be interested. Whether I could afford it would be another matter, but count me as a hand up.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2016, 03:41:09 pm »

Common Youz Guyz.  I know you can read.  PAY ATTENTION.  Abilene didn't ask for opine on 44 Russian or 45s, he asked if you'd buy a 44Spl HENRY.  Forty Four "SPECIAL" HENRY.  Simple Answer.  Yes or No.  Sheesh.

Yes.  I'm bored.  It's winter here in Pennsyltucky.  Cold and the range is covered in SNOW.  And I'm cranky today.  So there  Roll Eyes

You Betcha Red Ryder.  I'd snap up a 44 Special in a heart beat.  Oh .... wait.  I did say simple answer, didn't I.  OOPS

YES

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2016, 06:48:59 pm »

Common Youz Guyz.  I know you can read.  PAY ATTENTION.  Abilene didn't ask for opine on 44 Russian or 45s, he asked if you'd buy a 44Spl HENRY.  Forty Four "SPECIAL" HENRY.  Simple Answer.  Yes or No.  Sheesh.

Yes.  I'm bored.  It's winter here in Pennsyltucky.  Cold and the range is covered in SNOW.  And I'm cranky today.  So there  Roll Eyes

You Betcha Red Ryder.  I'd snap up a 44 Special in a heart beat.  Oh .... wait.  I did say simple answer, didn't I.  OOPS

YES

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easy solution: eat some pickled herring and send Abilene a blank check !

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2016, 08:09:57 pm »

A New Uberti  of any sort NO, Sad still have a bad taste over my Steel Henry and the barrel issue's. I will buy a barrel if one came up.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2017, 04:20:17 pm »

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!  Twenty Seventeen is Upon us.  At last, Twenty Sisteen goes inna toilette!!

So.  Not feeling lotz of support here for a new short run of "proper" Side-Loader Transitional Henry Rifles. 

Professor Marvel, I didn't detect a Hearty Hi Ho Silver Henry in your reply.  Some swell participation would be greatly appreciated.

Mike ....... Cheer Up.  Perhaps you can have a Henry Repeating Arms 1860 imported.  Two shots of Rum and you'll feel better inna morning.

Nativeshooter .... .45Colt has already been done.  How about a vote for something new and different!! 

Cheer Leaders.  We need some cheer leaders.  Need a couple of girl shooters in short skirts to really stir up the crowd.  Common.  Six is almost a crowd.

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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2017, 08:41:10 pm »

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!  Twenty Seventeen is Upon us.  At last, Twenty Sisteen goes inna toilette!!

And to you sir!

So.  Not feeling lotz of support here for a new short run of "proper" Side-Loader Transitional Henry Rifles. 
Professor Marvel, I didn't detect a Hearty Hi Ho Silver Henry in your reply.  Some swell participation would be greatly appreciated.


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Yes! I would love to see one!
unfortunately I would probably not buy one.


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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2017, 10:30:08 pm »

Have all I need now  Grin But always looking for a project gun. No more New ones thanks.

Happy New Year.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2017, 11:38:21 pm »

As to the original question.  No, I wouldn't buy a 44 spcl Henry.  My 44-40 brown barreled military model is quite sufficient.

As to the rejoinders subsequent to the OP, I'll add my own 'Happy New Year' everyone and second Coffinmaker's opinion on twenty sixteen.

May all your bangs be followed by clangs, and may your powder always stay dry.

And Abilene, while you are at the Shot  Show, press Uberti into making stainless steel Colt models again.  I still don't have one of each of the models they used to make & would love some new ones.



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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2017, 05:41:41 am »

Yes
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2017, 08:18:50 am »

YES YES YES  Grin
I have been trying for years to get a gun smith to convert a Henry to 44 special .
With No Luck .
I have a 66 , a 73 , and three 92s all in 44 special.
Count Me In on a Brass Henry in 44 Special ! Shocked
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I did say Yes Right .
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2017, 09:35:52 am »

Not in 44 Spl. but I would like one in 44 Russian.

Roger;  The .44 special is pretty easy to tweak so that it will cycle Russians.  I have a 66 in .44 special that has been so tweaked.



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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2017, 11:35:53 am »

Roger;  The .44 special is pretty easy to tweak so that it will cycle Russians.  I have a 66 in .44 special that has been so tweaked.



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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2017, 03:07:39 pm »

Perffesser Marvelous .........

I must know where you found the Cheer Leaders!!  I Must!!  Absolutely Splendiferous!!  Hard on a keyboard though  Shocked

Unfortunately I happen to own a swell 1866, .44 Special Trapper rifle, tweaked to run 44 Russian.  I say unfortunate, because it will not function with BP or Subs.  Well.  It will.  For about 3 rounds.  It's a "Smokeless Only" rifle. (sniff sniff sob).   Cry

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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2017, 03:28:41 pm »

Perhaps what we need is to develop a 44-40 short by cutting down a 45 Colt case to a 44 Russian length and necking it in a 44-40 die. Then all that would be required would be to recut the 44 spl chamber to fit.
Easy for me to say Wink But since I no longer have access to the machine tools required I'm unable to do it. But there are those of you here that do and could.
I realize I left the intent of this thread but this just came to me as I read Coffinmaker's reply bout his 44 spl 66 not running with BP.

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2017, 04:05:02 pm »

WOW!!  What an absolutely KOOL idea.  Several Lustrum ago, I needed to be able to load 10 in a 45 Henry Trapper.  That became the 45 Henry Squirt.  A 45 Schofield case the same length as a 45 ACP.

Now, it would be a lot of work to "wild cat" but .......... Making a bottle neck 44 Short would be UBER KOOL.  Make it so the actual case capacity is the same as a 45 ACP with the same bottle neck as the 44-40 with the same thinner neck thickness.  Would make the ideal CAS 44 loading.  Sucker would run thru a Toggle Link Rifle like wet grain thru a Goose. 

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2017, 06:19:46 pm »

Perffesser Marvelous .........

I must know where you found the Cheer Leaders!!  I Must!!  Absolutely Splendiferous!!  Hard on a keyboard though  Shocked

Unfortunately I happen to own a swell 1866, .44 Special Trapper rifle, tweaked to run 44 Russian.  I say unfortunate, because it will not function with BP or Subs.  Well.  It will.  For about 3 rounds.  It's a "Smokeless Only" rifle. (sniff sniff sob).   Cry

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That is strange .
I shoot a 92 , 66 , 73 . And a Marlin .
All with BP 44 special .
No issues at all.
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2017, 07:11:20 pm »

WOW!!  What an absolutely KOOL idea.  Several Lustrum ago, I needed to be able to load 10 in a 45 Henry Trapper.  That became the 45 Henry Squirt.  A 45 Schofield case the same length as a 45 ACP.

Now, it would be a lot of work to "wild cat" but .......... Making a bottle neck 44 Short would be UBER KOOL.  Make it so the actual case capacity is the same as a 45 ACP with the same bottle neck as the 44-40 with the same thinner neck thickness.  Would make the ideal CAS 44 loading.  Sucker would run thru a Toggle Link Rifle like wet grain thru a Goose. 

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PS:  Super KOOL idea Will K. 
Thanks, I'm glad you approve. You'er the one I was actually thinking of since you have the expertise and apparently the machine tools to do it.

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2017, 11:40:16 pm »

Okay, times up.  Driving to Vegas in the morning.  Looks like the tally is 6.  I'll see what Mike says, but don't hold your breath  Smiley

Fingers, I don't get to sit in on the meetings with Uberti, Pietta, etc.  But a lot of times those guys show up at the booth, and if I get a chance I'll mention it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2017, 03:46:51 pm »

Okay, times up.  Driving to Vegas in the morning.  Looks like the tally is 6.  I'll see what Mike says, but don't hold your breath  Smiley

Fingers, I don't get to sit in on the meetings with Uberti, Pietta, etc.  But a lot of times those guys show up at the booth, and if I get a chance I'll mention it.


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