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« on: September 14, 2016, 03:02:37 pm »


Looking at purchasing a Remington in 45 2.4. The gun has a tube sight fitted at present but want a tang sight and globe front sight.
Here in NZ we have limited sights and dealers to a/. Supply b/. Types to inspect before purchase.
The other issue is once the total value goes over $300nz including postage cost we get stung by tax's by the boarder police who are waiting rubbing their hands.
So if I am going to buy a sight I want to do it once. I have a number of sight already on guns ranging from  lyman old and new, old and new marbles. I have had at least three Italian made tangs, not that impressed as with the new lyman and marbles .

So what is availble out there on the WWW.

What I belive I want is a easy to us, mid to long range sight which is easy to read ajustments. Any thoughts Grin


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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 03:52:55 pm »

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Cool looking shooting iron! Is that dual extractors i see? I have machined my own tang and globes for mine 2.  I do have the machinist drawings to refer to. What you are looking for should be available from Montana Vintage Arms company in Belgrade Montana.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 07:48:31 pm »

Yes dual extractor, hope to have it in my hands in a couple of weekends.
Will have a look at the site you mention. Were did you get the drawings?
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 08:02:23 pm »

I have several tang mounted sights from Montana Vintage Arms in Montana, and they are of the very best quality available anywhere in the world, in my opinion.  They have a Vernier scale that is easy to read and very repeatable, which is critical.  They are, as one would expect for the best, relatively expensive.  For example, owing to the rate of exchange between USD and CND, I have almost $1000 in the rear and front sights on my Sharps.  But worth every nickel to me.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 09:17:35 pm »

A friend has a Soule and is very pleased with it.
will have consider these.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 07:27:54 am »

You might also want to try Lee Shaver Gunsmithing.  He has a great reputation for the quality of his sights, and prices are quite reasonable.

http://www.leeshavergunsmithing.com
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 07:58:20 pm »

Thanks for the link, will see the rifle Saturday so if I get it then I will be ordering sights.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 08:32:42 pm »

Baldwin sights are also quite good.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 02:02:00 pm »

I have two sets of "Parts Unknown" made long range Soule tang and hooded front sights (one with windage adjustment and one without). One set is on a '74 Shiloh Sharps the other on a Rolling Block. From what I can tell, the "Parts Unknown" disappeared for a while and reemerged as "Red River Sights" and are available at Buffalo Arms (and maybe other suppliers). They have been very easy for me to operate and adjust for different ranges as well as being accurately returned to a previous range setting. Can't go wrong with the other sight groups mentioned by others here . . . YMMV.

Nice looking rifle BTW !!!
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 06:49:09 pm »

Cases arrived this morning and I cast some 405 grain heads just in case. Not long now to the weekend.
Thanks, looked at all the site suggested, need the gun in hand now to see what it is like.

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 03:43:00 pm »

Bought the gun and got it home, It is not a 45-90 as first discribed. The chamber is for a 45-60 which is strange for down here as not a common chambering, 45-70 would be more common.
As I have a 45-60 76 I have dies and moulds. What sight I put on it is now clear, it will not be a long range rifle so no point putting a tall post on it.I will try and get a Rough and ready sight for it and turn the gun into a hunting rifle set up.

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2016, 04:49:38 pm »

 You could always have the chamber opened up to one of the longer cases.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2016, 11:37:49 pm »

Yes I could but, will shoot this for awhile and see how it goes. Not that many long ranges available here for BP.
Any one know anything about the Remington 45-60 cartridge? It was used on the hunting model or economy model
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2016, 03:21:56 pm »

Yes I could but, will shoot this for awhile and see how it goes. Not that many long ranges available here for BP.
Any one know anything about the Remington 45-60 cartridge? It was used on the hunting model or economy model


Rim thickness MAY be less than that for a .45-70 case. Other than that I see no issues. Try a case short enough to FULLY chamber and you should be GTG.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 11:11:34 pm »

Case's made, the chamber is 1.94 on this new barrel.
I have a copy of a Remington catalogue which has a 45-60 cartridge mentioned. Is it the same as the Winchester round?
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2016, 09:31:42 am »

My "current " issue of Cartridges of the World is the 3d edition, all yellow, tattered & frayed. It does not mention Remington in the entry on the .45-60, introduced by Winchester in 1880 for the M'76. However, it was common practice to add your name when chambering for a competitors round. If someone has a reference to rolling block chamberings, that might answer. My caution was about rim thickness, as few charts list that dimension. (Rim thickness for other '76 rounds seem thinner than the .45-70 gov't. rim.) Just make sure the block is fully closed before firing.

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2016, 03:34:54 pm »

Sir Charles, all good. Case fits chamber and breech closes fine.
As old cartridge names refer to calibre  and powder weight, the bullet dia is not always a accurate discription ie: 38-40, the 45 in this Remington cartridge could be a .443 or bigger.

My gun has a new barrel and is a .456 bore from the slug bought with it. The chamber is longer than my 76 1.89 against 1.94 RRB. Which is strange.

Will keep looking for information.

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2016, 03:57:47 pm »

Sorry for quality of picture.

The cartridge of interest is the one advertised with the Black Hills Model.


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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2016, 10:08:50 am »

I did some googling. Dangerous way to waste time! No news on the details of the ammo but the Balck Hills model in .45-60 with 28" round barrel was offered from 1877 to 1882.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2016, 12:27:07 am »

I have the details now thanks, case was 1.751 and is a very rare cartridge. Very few gun known to have survived. The info is in the New book on Remington Rolling blocks.


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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2016, 06:34:15 pm »

Its hard to imagine how your rifle which is certainly not a black hills model wound up chambered in the rare 45-60.  Perhaps a Black Hills barrel was used to rebarrel your action.
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