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« on: April 20, 2016, 09:32:53 am »


And it's pure PC BS IMO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=111&v=deSRpSn8Pyk


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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2016, 10:00:53 am »

I'll give it a chance. Heck, at this point, I'm just happy to see any new Western with a chance of being decent. I've always thought Denzel Washington was a solid actor. I don't quite buy Chris Pratt, but I've enjoyed him in most films I see him in, so we'll see.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 06:49:27 am »

While, I do not anticipate this to be on the caliber (oh a pun) of the original Magnificent Seven, or even nearly as sharp (oh, another) as the Seven Samurai, I will be there to see it.   One, big fan of Vincent D'Onofrio, he pretty much raises the abilities of those around him.   Second just glad they are making a western.   I get the diverse cast, Hollywood is not making pictures for the USA alone anymore.  The Asian market is huge and as such, I see the logical addition of an Asian actor.  I just wish they would have had him dress in a fashion that was a nod to Kwai Chang Caine, that would have been a great twist.  Overall, the market for Western movies is probably overseas as well.   I have yet to meet someone from Europe or Asia that does not want to see the Wild West.   I deal with client in Japan on a regular basis.   Many, knowing my location, ask about Jesse James.  They are even more amazed when I tell them I am on the board of the Jesse James Farm and send pictures.   So, I am guessing if done well, this will do well overseas. 
Of the modern westerns, it is one I am going to definitely support.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2016, 07:53:12 am »

I'll give it a chance.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 04:17:07 am »

It's only a Trailer so it hard to tell what the final movie will be like. I've a few thoughts though. It looks like a Kick-Ass movie and I don't mean that in a good way......it will have lots of bad guys getting their ass kicked by the good guys. You need more than that, you need drama, you need vulnerability, you don't need PC casting when it stares out at you as an obvious Studio ploy. But I will go and see it. The world loves Cowboy Movies because they are about Americans, not Irish-Americans, not French born Americans, not born in Italy but living in America now or many years Americans, just hairy-assed Americans. Trying to pander to a persieved foreign market to make it more "Cowboy" is just shooting yourself in the foot. See what I did there. Hey, I hope it's absolutely brilliant. Who doesn't want a great western?
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2016, 07:47:04 am »

I'll go see it.

I can't help but think that this will turn out like "Hateful Eight" or "Bone Tomahawk", - made as competition with the big action-packed Marvel franchises.
Comic Book inspired Over-the-Top characterizations.

But, they're in a business where you jump on whatever's hot at the moment before the fickle interests of the masses change.

I've also noticed that post 9/11 movies everything is apocalyptic and can only be made right by Super Heros. Kind of like how Japan went into it's post-war Godzilla phase after suffering the horror of nuclear war, - their nightmare imaginings had to be bigger and grander.

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 08:56:16 am »

I'll give it a chance too.  I'm also just happy to see any new Western come out.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2016, 10:04:03 am »


I've also noticed that post 9/11 movies everything is apocalyptic and can only be made right by Super Heros. Kind of like how Japan went into it's post-war Godzilla phase after suffering the horror of nuclear war, - their nightmare imaginings had to be bigger and grander.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2016, 10:13:31 pm »

 I, wonder if it will be as great as "RICE RUSSLERS OF GUATAMALLA GULCH" ( made in japan)HuhHuh





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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 07:09:43 am »

I saw it this weekend.  Not bad.  Takes some lines straight from the 1960 version.  Action is a bit over the top, as most movies now days are.   I did enjoy it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2016, 12:44:30 am »

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I saw it this weekend.  Not bad.  Takes some lines straight from the 1960 version.  Action is a bit over the top, as most movies now days are.   I did enjoy it.
My sentiments exactly. I'll buy the DVD when it comes out.
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2016, 07:32:33 am »

Saw it with the wife. We both enjoyed it, and I'd buy it when it comes out.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 08:23:55 pm »

Hollywood pretty-boys dressing up and playing cowboy will never appeal to me.  Classic westerns are far more authentic because the actors were men before they became actors.  There will never be another Eastwood, Bronson, Wayne, Van Cleef and so many others who were able to sell the movie because they weren't having to pretend to play the role.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2016, 11:41:17 pm »

Politically Correct Marxist statement.  Nothing to see here.  Stick Yul Brenner and Steve McQueen in the DVD and pop some popcorn. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2016, 09:20:30 am »

Hollywood pretty-boys dressing up and playing cowboy will never appeal to me.  Classic westerns are far more authentic because the actors were men before they became actors.  There will never be another Eastwood, Bronson, Wayne, Van Cleef and so many others who were able to sell the movie because they weren't having to pretend to play the role.

well, I say  Sam Elliot & Beau Bridges * , have held their own 

* I offer , Wild Bill  & Rooster in defense of Beau...Sam needs no defending     
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2016, 10:13:14 am »

Politically Correct Marxist statement.  Nothing to see here.  Stick Yul Brenner and Steve McQueen in the DVD and pop some popcorn. 

Mind if I ask where you got the Marxist connotation from? The 'corrupt business man' as a villain is pretty common throughout the history of American cinema and pop culture, and most of those films aren't considered Marxist. This film didn't have 'a business is bad' theme, just that people who go after folks weaker than themselves/abuse their power are bad. Again, a fairly common theme in American film, and in Western films in particular.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2016, 03:56:11 pm »

Mind if I ask where you got the Marxist connotation from? The 'corrupt business man' as a villain is pretty common throughout the history of American cinema and pop culture, and most of those films aren't considered Marxist. This film didn't have 'a business is bad' theme, just that people who go after folks weaker than themselves/abuse their power are bad. Again, a fairly common theme in American film, and in Western films in particular.

It's not the corrupt business man part (although that is a common feature of Marxist themes and, as you point out, they are a common part of left wing Hollywood and have been since the 1930s to some extent or another) 

But it's the whole modern politically correct left wing notion that everything has to be multicultural (even if it flies in the face of reality, historical or current, and looks ridiculous).  Western Civilization (White man, Christian and other aspects) is bad and must written out and/or must make up for it by embracing egalitarianism and meeting racial and sexual quotas on any given subject.     Look how many Hollywood movies of recent times have redone characters (whether it's westerns, dramas, comic book heros, etc.) with black, female or gay characters (Yul Brenner's character is redone with Denzel Washington and the whole group of 7 has to have like 1 black, one Mexican, one Indian, one woman, one gay or whatever).    Political Correctness is also known as Cultural Marxism.    It started back in the 1990s, more or less, and has gotten even more ridiculous over the past decade or so.   
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 06:38:41 pm »

Just managed to watch it on cable. The Political Correctness smacks you right up the face. I didn't see any black bad guys, maybe I missed them. The bad Indian guy gets killed by.......the good Indian guy. It could have been a good movie though but, it isn't. I would love to have been at the production meetings where Political Commisar stepped in to correct reality. And did anyone note the sound that the guns made in places.......like children's cap guns. Like Rooster said about Quincy: Don't look for McQueen or Bronson or Brynner.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 08:40:30 am »

Pass....unless I stumble on it, freebie on one of the TNT channels...

Last good Western I recall was Open Range.....

the comic book versions of  Lone Ranger, Wild Wild West   Roll Eyes
 Hateful Eight,  Django Unchained  & Bone Tomahawk  don't entertain me....  their trailers were enough to turn me away.

I still want to catch The Revenant,  just cause  Undecided , but I won't spend any of my money to the Lenin r doh  DiCraprio enrichment fund.
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2017, 03:24:44 pm »

Hey Major,
If you do not mind the horror genre, check out The Burrowers.  It has Clancy Brown and Tom Cruises less crazy cousin.   I like horror and I like westerns, this was both. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 01:44:22 pm »

Remakes of classics simply ought not to be made.

Can you imagine a remake of Bogey's "Casablanca", "Treasure of the Sierra Madres", "The Maltese Falcon" or Gary Cooper's "High Noon" or any number of other golden oldies like "Shane"?
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 03:50:20 pm »

It wouldn't stop any Hollywood ego from remaking any movie classic......then shrug at the millions spent. SOMEONE thought that remaking TheMagnificent Seven was a good idea. Having said that, my heart sank when I heard the Coen Brothers were remaking True Grit and look what happened Pure Gold.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2017, 08:32:03 am »

I loved the True Grit remake, much more realistic and closer to the novel. Appaloosa is another fantastic modern western that left me wanting a sequel. Jane Got a Gun was a recent western that just felt right. Then there's Bone Tomahawk, I know its niche western but I loved the premises. It felt very Robert E Howardesque. While I do love classic western cinema, I am not stuck in 1960. I do believe there are some excellent western films being made....just not enough of them.

I forgot, here's another modern day Spaghetti western that I loved The Salvation. It was filmed entirely outside the US with a largely European cast. A fantastic tale of revenge.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2017, 01:30:33 pm »

Well, with the Cohen bros. True Grit, "The eye patch really tied the movie together, man." Grin
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2017, 01:36:00 pm »

Well, with the Cohen bros. True Grit, "The eye patch really tied the movie together, man." Grin

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