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Offline badcompany

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emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
« on: December 05, 2015, 08:30:31 PM »
Hey guys, looking to get back into SA shooting. Looked at a 1875 outlaw imported by EMF. The gun looked to be in great shape, almost unfired. It would get hung up 90% unless you give the hammer a sharp quick cock. Trying to cock the revolver slowly will lock it up unless you spin the cylinder 1/16 to the right.

older gent at the shop said the gun just needs to be shot and broken in....egh I'm not so sure. They want $400 for it. Easy fix or leave it be?

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Re: emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 07:56:46 AM »
A competent smith can fix that, add a full action job and it will last longer than you do. But 400 is to much in my mind, offer 300, go from there.
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Re: emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 08:44:29 AM »
Bad company, the bolt isn't resetting causing it to "lock up". The quick release of the hammer jars the arm enough to reset. It's a minor problem and easy to fix. The worse case scenario would be a bolt replacement (if its cracked and breaking).

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Re: emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
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Re: emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 01:23:59 PM »
I read my post again and perhaps its a little confusing so let me elaborate.

when cocking the hammer back quickly and sharply the gun operates just fine, it is quite heavy however.

when cocking the hammer back slowly or normally it will just pass half cock and then lock up. I was able to leave it at half cock or hold the hammer while moving the cylinder over just slightly and then fully cock the revolver.

there was also a drag mark starting around the cylinder which seems to be happening at an accelerated rate than the rest of the usual wear the revolver would normally be getting, especially since it looks almost unfired.

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Re: emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 03:35:17 PM »
Ahh,
 What you describe is late bolt pickup. The bolt head isn't all the way out of the locking notch before the hand starts carry up of the next chamber. That or, the edge of the locking notch is upset and catches the bolt head as carry up starts. Snatching the hammer back forces the bolt down , in either case, and allows the cycle to happen.

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Re: emf 1875 outlaw timing issue?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 06:38:37 AM »
Sounds to me like the bolt leg is worn or has been "smithed" for some reason.

It's funny how these things can be so hard to put in words!
I agree that $400 could be a bit much for a pistol that needs to be repaired though I might give that for an early one in great shape.
Good luck whatever you decide brotha!

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