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« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2015, 10:38:37 am »

Corn cobs have to be grown in a cornfield. Cornfields need farmers, either sodbusters or peons. I suppose cattle drovers could buy corn at the start or along the way. Depending on availability! Local wood may, or may not, have been available in usable quantity


Well, wouldn't be PC for a cattle drive.....

But for eastern Nebraska in the 1880's, a lot more correct...
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« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2015, 11:13:15 am »

The chips is one of them that PC should not be used, there is a higher risk of a food borne disease with them, talking with some Ag professors while I work on their hats is a good soucre for knowledge.   Something about something that begins with an E.   
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« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2015, 11:44:44 am »

That is good advice, especially when there are options and/or alternative today to supplying fuel.
These options and/or alternatives may simply not been available during the cattle drives.
Various forms of dung have been used as fuel for thousands of years.
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« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2015, 02:22:55 pm »

Pardon me if I left the impression I was recommending buffalo chip briquettes.

I am NOT!

I was addressing the issue of what would be PC for a cattle drive over the arid portions of the plains back in the day.
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« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2015, 04:58:31 pm »

Sir Charles,

I very much agree.
However, alternative fuel sources, such as this, are something that should be discussed during such historical programs as hearth,  fireplace, camp or chuck wagon style cooking.
Of course this also means someone has to gather this or other fuel, and it is best that the "chips" be a great deal less than "green" or wet.
But then again, any good cook should know the value of the quality and quantity of fuel needed for any given meal he is planning.
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« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2015, 08:30:25 pm »

I guess if I had known that little bit of historical data, . . . I'd a probably checked it out, . . . found out about a lot of other stuff back then that I wouldn't mess with today.

Thanks for the giggles, guys, . . . makes a cold mid-western snow day go by a bit faster and easier.

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« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2015, 09:45:30 am »

Pardon me if I left the impression I was recommending buffalo chip briquettes.

I am NOT!

I was addressing the issue of what would be PC for a cattle drive over the arid portions of the plains back in the day.

I know that, but I do always mention that when the subjecy comes up, you would be surprised how many think it is a good idea.
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« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2015, 01:40:35 pm »

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Cow-poop-repels-mosquitoes-224576671.html

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« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2015, 02:16:50 pm »

I would no more suggest using dung as a good idea for a fuel source than I would suggest using water from near by creeks, streams or other water sources.
However, within the time period, people had to use what they had available to them to get the job done at hand.

GCR,
Interesting!
But I believe I would rather use the dryer sheets like you would place in the dryer when washing cloths. This seems to be pretty effective at warding off biting insects.
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« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2015, 07:09:48 pm »

OK, . . . cooks, . . . grub slingers, . . . when you bake biscuits or corn bread or other bread in a dutch oven, . . . do you use a trivet in the bottom?

And, . . . how in the heck do you do a pie?  Cake I can figure, . . . no problem, . . . pie?Huh?

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« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2015, 09:12:57 am »

No, why use a trivet, just bake those in the oven.   Pie, yeah, pie pan and a trivet. 




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« Reply #86 on: February 18, 2015, 02:50:57 pm »

Thanks, Delmonico, . . . I did some biscuits the other day, . . . just messing around, . . . bottom was just a tad brown for my liking, thought maybe the trivet would take care of that, . . . got one on order from Amazon.

Also found out that those old coated steel pie pans I salvaged from the scrap heap at a yard sale several years ago, . . . exactly sits down in both of my dutch ovens, . . .

I can see I'll be having fun with this all summer long, . . . if summer ever gets here.

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« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2015, 03:43:20 pm »

OK, . . . cooks, . . . grub slingers, . . . when you bake biscuits or corn bread or other bread in a dutch oven, . . . do you use a trivet in the bottom?

And, . . . how in the heck do you do a pie?  Cake I can figure, . . . no problem, . . . pie?Huh?

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« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2015, 04:35:13 pm »

Dwight, just put less heat on the bottom next time. 

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« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2015, 05:53:38 pm »

Del,you need to find out how to deliver! Cry
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« Reply #90 on: February 18, 2015, 06:33:58 pm »

Dwight, put some pebbles in the bottom of your dutch oven and set your pie pan on those
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« Reply #91 on: February 18, 2015, 07:12:13 pm »

Rick, I don't think Del's gonna deliver to California, too many yuppies out there.
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« Reply #92 on: February 18, 2015, 09:15:24 pm »

Dwight, put some pebbles in the bottom of your dutch oven and set your pie pan on those

Thanks Dan, . . . sometimes the obvious is too close to you.  If it had been and electric motor, . . . a tractor engine, . . . i would have thought of it, . . . cooking outdoors is something I'm just getting my feet wet in.

I did see a really neat rig though a cook uses over at the Bill Cody place, . . . and I've got the round stock steel out in the barn just waiting for the weather to warm up enough so I can get to my bender out there.

Got me a 10 qt, white porcelain coffee pot on Ebay last week, . . . now all I need is some decent weather, . . . I'll make up some hooks, . . . get it all set.

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« Reply #93 on: February 19, 2015, 09:46:20 am »

Pony Express.................round here a yuppie is any guy with a clean shirt.  Grin
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« Reply #94 on: February 19, 2015, 10:38:10 am »

Yuppies are any one who is citified that discovers old time skills us farmer/cowboy/redneck types have been doing all our lives, in 3 months they become experts, give it fancy names, make it more complicated than need be.   

They buy 3-5 acres in the country and call themselves Pioneers or Homesteaders, they get a wind generator or solar panels and tell folks they live off the grid and they form Facebook groups for people living off the grid and never see the oxymoron of that.   

Pony Express has heard all this around our camp fires between daring tales of brave ducklings and hiding in refurbished chicken coops from hail.   Grin
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« Reply #95 on: February 19, 2015, 10:40:22 am »

Oh had one the other day was telling me all about those dutch ovens and how useful they are, in fact he told me he was gonna get him one and try it like his friend does, with modern charcoal outside their motorhome.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #96 on: February 19, 2015, 10:59:40 am »

We learned to cook many meals in Dutch Ovens in the Boy Scouts. I can remember one meal was a giant pot pie....was ugly as sin but was very tasty!
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« Reply #97 on: February 19, 2015, 11:27:26 am »

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« Reply #98 on: February 19, 2015, 11:28:42 am »

Common question on groups, "anyone have a good recipe for a pot pie?" 

Yep, make a stew and put a biscuit or pastry crust on top and bake. 
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« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2015, 06:16:05 pm »

I have just been viewing some of the Jas. Townson & Son videos on 18th Century cooking methods.
This of course predates the Chuck Wagon era and cattle drives by more than a few years.

I am unable to post a direct link to this site. However, an internet search maybe able to help those looking for more info than has been offered so far?
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