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« on: November 18, 2014, 09:48:09 am »


I used to carry a IJ .38 S&W in my pocket when working from horseback, just to gave some gun with me. I've wondered if there might not be a market for a breaktop, made with modern metal and maybe in the right caliber people would buy'm(?)
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 12:21:14 pm »

I'd certainly get one, maybe two, break tops at a reasonable price. A .22 and a .38 would be nice with a 4 inch barrel. As you stated, a stronger metal and stronger latch system would be needed. Enjoyed the break tops I had but even with minimal usage time took its toll on already aged firearm.
Not sure the 'modern' generations would take to them. Everyone is pretty much hooked on the black semi autos while I'm still a revolver fan. I trust them more and I just don't conceal a brick very well.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 12:28:01 pm »

Nope...

This has been talked about before, so there are threads about it in the 'NCOWS', 'Historical Society and 'Frontier Iron' forums, and the upshot was that in today's ever-litigious world, gunmakers wouldn't be interested in producing a new design for a limited audience.

They would have to be able to market the piece to a number of potential buyers of small pocket revolvers, and that market is well-served by S&W and Ruger.

Many of the old top-breaks are still in excellent condition today, and are exceptionally affordable - most sell for well under $200.

New ones would no doubt exceed these prices by a long shot - and new tooling has to be paid for, as does R&D.

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 08:10:50 pm »

My Dear Shotgun -

Since the demise of the Webleys, the Iver Johnston, and the H&R,  modern-designed breaktops have had to
face the realities that :
1) the design is not as strong as a solid frame revolver.
and
B) The market seems well served by the S&W clones and old stock originals

I have found only Two modern efforts, the MP412, and the Detonics.

I had thought that Mateba had once put out a breaktop, but apparently I have been deluded by watching too many Japanese Cartoons.

1) ~ 1990 Russian MP412 REX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP412_REX
    late 1990s (prototypes only—never reached production stage)
              I can;t find much more as I do not read Russki


2) 1982 the DETONICS folks filed a patent for a SS top break revolver
According to a flyer It was a 7-shot .44 Magnum. It never got past the drawing board.
 US Patent #4,539,771 - Handgun of the revolver type.
http://www.google.com/patents/US4539771#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://pics.livejournal.com/casatic/pic/006xehbt/s640x480

thus, we see that modern efforts, from reasonably well-funded (at the time ) extant corporations with actual factories
building actual products were full of fail.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 08:35:23 pm »

I guess if I could stumble upon a smokeless .38 S&W breaktop I'd try to get it. They are neat little guns. IMO
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 10:48:06 am »

Here are 2 on Gun Broker right now.  452898861 and 452459498.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 01:38:41 pm »

This ones mine. Dates to 1931-32.

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