Author Topic: Krag Carbine Reproduction  (Read 21984 times)

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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2016, 06:36:08 PM »
Not really.  I would not mind a Norwegian detailed model in 6.5x55.  Now THOSE are expensive!  Still though, for the American hunter not afflicted with magnumitis, there's nothing on this continent that cannot be taken with the .30 US.
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2016, 06:42:08 PM »
Yeah, I'd like a 6.5X55 also, but yeah, pricey.   

And yes that 30-40 will take any game at the range open sights are useful, if yer gonna scope it might as well get a Rem 700 or something similar.  Kinda like when Browning made the 95's in 270, all I could think of was why?
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2016, 06:56:51 PM »



    Speaking of other calibers, the Krag was commonly being converted to other calibers almost a century ago-219 Zipper, 220 Swift, 30-30 etc. and I believe it to be the original wildcatters bolt gun!


    General, I wouldn't want to take one of your unmolested collector guns and try to shoot it as fast as I could either, but a previously mutilated 1896 Krag reconfigured into an 1896 carbine isn't going to lose any historical value if the stock gets scratched because most would consider it to be of value for use as a working vintage firearm and it will only cost about $500 or so.:D





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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2016, 07:23:00 PM »



 Still though, for the American hunter not afflicted with magnumitis, there's nothing on this continent that cannot be taken with the .30 US.


   My grandfather, one of the few people I ever met besides you guys that could talk about these old guns, told me that when the 1894 Winchester came out in 30-30, the factory sent out hunters with the then new guns and they proceeded to take every large animal in North America, including grizzly, elk and moose.


    When I'm camping in bear country, the rifle I carry is a 112 year old cut down Krag-you know it's gonna work! :D



 Kinda like when Browning made the 95's in 270, all I could think of was why?




    Yeah, me too, but if people will buy it, I guess somebody is gonna make it! :D


   I studied it some and when it came right down to it, there was no scientific reason to like the .270 or 30-06 better. But I shoot M1s and '03s, so I like the 30-06 better.








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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2016, 07:39:12 PM »



    I studied it some and when it came right down to it, there was no scientific reason to like the .270 or 30-06 better. But I shoot M1s and '03s, so I like the 30-06 better.








The reason to like 30-06 better than .270 is.....Milsurps weren't made in .270!

But as to the reproduction Krag, I already got an original, why not make something more rare, like maybe an 1895 Navy straight pull? For that I'd accept a substitute caliber! Maybe a .243?

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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2016, 10:34:35 PM »



    That would be great! Remember that guy that wanted a downpayment to reserve a rifle and said they were going to make '95 Winchester Lees and sell them for $1200? I fear most people have no idea what one even is though!




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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2016, 10:41:43 PM »
Why buy repos?  They could be made for other cartridges.

Nothing wrong with the U.S. .30 Krag round.
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2016, 12:48:10 AM »
One must remember unless these are made with a case hardened action that is well polished they will never be near as slick as an original.

Kind of like the difference between an 03 and an 03A3, just not the same.
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2016, 10:15:50 AM »
I heard a story somewhere that in pre war (ww1) days, sergeants would hand out polishing compound to bored soldiers, who would coat bolt bodys and and run them back and forth to get the bolts slick and shiny, to make officers happy on inspection . . .
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2016, 11:32:58 AM »
They may have, but case hardened is still more slick than nickel steel a lot more moving parts are case hardened than gun parts for that very reason..
 
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2016, 11:24:22 PM »
The Sergeants didn't care one way or the other about whether or not their soldiers were bored - it was a part of small arms maintenance.

The practice continued throughout the issue of the M1903A1

What it did, was essentially 'hand-lapping', and it explains why those old bolt actions - if in their original configuration, and not assembled from disparate parts - were so finger-flicking smooth and fast.

As to a reproduction - remember that there 'must' be a true 'perceived need' by more than a handful of guys just wanting a toy - other potential buyers 'must' have an interest serious enough to warrant the expense of introducing an archaic design into a dwindling marketplace

There isn't - if there were, there'd be reproductions of M1903s and 8mm Mausers - and no one's building those at the moment.

A receiver built in the Philippines or elsewhere would be another joke...

As to a 'free' GAF membership as an incentive - it's 'already' free...

If someone wants a Krag, let him look for a real one - there are enough originals available to satisfy any need.

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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2016, 08:09:59 AM »


As to a 'free' GAF membership as an incentive - it's 'already' free...


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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2016, 02:46:26 PM »
Well, there are in fact reproductions of M1903s being done even as we speak, mostly of the a4 sniper configuration, but there seems to be a demand for them.  As to 98ks, we've yet to reach the bottom of the millions done among various country's prewar, wartime and post war.  There is a subset out there that claims "Mitchells Mausers" are little better than reproductions.

All of which is academic: If Mike Harvey thinks he can sell them, he'll build them.  If he don't, he won't.

As for a suitable venue, well, that would be us!
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2016, 06:10:40 PM »






Well, in my case, I'd rather play with a repro than an original because if I ding the stock or drop it and put a big gouge in it or break a part, I just defaced history.


 



   This one was seriously fubar! :D













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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2016, 07:18:03 PM »
I still recognize it! Willing to bet a few others on here do too.  But not being a military man,(other than GAF) maybe I don't fully understand the definition of FUBAR?


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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2016, 07:47:48 PM »
... a previously mutilated 1896 Krag reconfigured into an 1896 carbine isn't going to lose any historical value if the stock gets scratched because most would consider it to be of value for use as a working vintage firearm and it will only cost about $500 or so.:D
I got one of those.  ;D

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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2016, 07:59:41 PM »
Scotty me lad ( f----d up beyond all repair) FUBAR

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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2016, 09:55:07 PM »
In the Big Green Gun Club we were always told it stood for "F----- Up Beyond All Recognition".  Works either way.
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2016, 09:58:29 PM »
Nice people say fouled. ::)
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Re: Krag Carbine Reproduction
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2016, 11:25:38 PM »
I still recognize it! Willing to bet a few others on here do too.  But not being a military man,(other than GAF) maybe I don't fully understand the definition of FUBAR?


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