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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2014, 05:49:07 pm »

Dusty,
It's now December 2014 and we have not heard any Progress reports on your Project.

All is Well I hope.

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Chev. William
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2014, 04:11:41 am »

Dusty,
It's now December 2014 and we have not heard any Progress reports on your Project.

All is Well I hope.

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Chev. William
I must admit Chev.  I may be one of those people that have to many projects. The Remington Rolling block project has been set aside for the time being. Not much to report ,since the last work I did on it. It is in the stock shaping stage and I am not happy with the way they are shaping up. Thanks for the follow up. If I ever get it presentable I will post a pic. of it. ,,,,,,,DT
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2014, 11:12:06 am »

Very Old Advice:  "take Sculpting The Stock Very Slow, take little cuts off as if you take big ones and you go too Far, you have a Real PROJECT in putting the error Right.  It is EASY to Take it off but HARD to put it back on".

Best of Wishes for you and your Family this Christmas and New Year Season and for the Year to come.
Chev. William
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2014, 11:16:15 am »

Thank You Chev. And Merry Christmas and Happy New Yr. to you and yours!,,,,,,,DT
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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2015, 06:42:38 pm »

Coming up on Mother's Day and I am looking forward to Visiting with old Friends at a dinner on May 16th at "The 94th Aero Squadron A Restaurant" near me.  it sits adjacent to a General Aviation Airport and has a WW1 "French Farmhouse' Motif with WW1 Aviation memorabilia about.

My late Mother enjoyed several dinners there years ago.

On another note:  My own projects are progressing S-L-O-W-L-Y due to lack of 'Discretionary Spending Funds' for the last many months.I do have two Rifles almost together, now waiting for drill and tapping of the Forearm retainer Screw holes in the Barrel bottoms.  They are marked and 'center punched' but I need to buy the Taps and Tap Drill needed.

The other projects at my gunsmith have been on hold as his wife passed away this last April and he was out of the Shop for a few weeks taking care of that sad Task set.

Today it has been Cold Blustery and Sprinkling here (we do need the Rain).  

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Chev. William  
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2015, 01:21:53 pm »

Spring and Summer have come and gone, going out with a "Heat wave, then Rain" here in the San Fernando Valley.
Halloween is past, I let go of an incomplete Project my Father and I started Many Decades ago to a 'Good Home' for way less than was invested in it.  I will need to get the Velum drawings out for the machine work and make copies to send the New owner.
This was a Custom Three wheel vehicle with two wheels in front and Front Wheel drive from an Indian 'Chief' engine reworked to sit crosswise and feed a Volkswagen open half shaft Transmission driving MG1200 Front suspension, a Renault Dauphine Rack and Pinion steering box set up for Right hand Drive and fitted with an MG TF used Body.

The Purchaser got enough parts for about two and a half engines as part of the 'bargain' so he will have enough 'trading pieces' to get any needed Indian parts to complete the Trike project.

This also opens up a sheltered parking spot for my 1942 'jeep' close enough to my Garage to allow working upon it.

Progress is measured in small increments at my age.

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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2017, 01:16:04 pm »

Its been so long nearly forgot , for you Cev. William . Been so long cant remember the numbers. Cut the chamber with my home made reamer on the lathe , Here is where I left off on stock work , just work on it a bit at a time may never finish. Shoots very good Accurate and does not move. Can use , and do use .32 H&R Mag. load data . No sign of harm to brass and sure none to the RB action. Any How for what its worth , Thought you may want to see my progress. Thats me Slow But Sure! ,,DT


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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2017, 02:23:05 pm »

Its been so long nearly forgot , for you Cev. William . Been so long cant remember the numbers. Cut the chamber with my home made reamer on the lathe , Here is where I left off on stock work , just work on it a bit at a time may never finish. Shoots very good Accurate and does not move. Can use , and do use .32 H&R Mag. load data . No sign of harm to brass and sure none to the RB action. Any How for what its worth , Thought you may want to see my progress. Thats me Slow But Sure! ,,DT

DT,
That is Coming along very well indeed.
As to the speed, my own "Projects" are also proceeding at a 'Snail's Pace" mostly due to my restricted Finances in retirement.
I have not had any "Work Calls' from My Union Dispatcher in several Months now.  The "Cost of Living" raise in My Social security, Military, and VA disability retirement payments was 0.3 Percent this year in spite of Taxes Increasing at over  2 percent and the "CoL' raises to Current Government Employees being 2.7 percent.

I now have a pair of Ruger Revolvers added to my  projects: one is a Single Six in .22 Cal that has been converted to a Long Barrel .25ACP Single Eight.  the other one is a Single Six in .32 H&R Magnum that I am investigating making into a 'convertible' between Colt and S&W family .32 Cal Cartridges.  

My rifle projects are Going Slow at my Gunsmith as he is 'buried' in more Work than the shop can handle for the Last Year.
Mine are of the "Back burner - low Budget" type ot keep my costs down.

A Home "putter Project" has been started in Converting a 1890 Winchester Pump to .25ACP and a Carbine Length (20 inch long) Barrel.
   I have a 'Bubba Cut' 1890 Barrel out to "John Taylor Machining" to be Fitted with a .25ACP "TJ" 1;14 twist Liner.
   I have already reworked the Front housing and Bolt to move the Firing Pin tip from "RF" to "CF" by re-drilling the bolt breech face and grinding off the original tip and drilling for a 5/64" (.078") Dowel Pin for a new firing pin tip.  The original Tip
 hole was filled with a steel rivet and filed Smooth after setting it.
   I have a New made replacement '.22WRF Tube Magazine that will take the .25ACP cartridges in the spring inner tube and have opened the Loading Port width to allow Inserting .25ACP cartridge through the side of the Outer sleeve tube.
   A Used "S-L-LR" Cartridge Lifter is to be reamed in bore enough to accept the .25ACP cartridge rim, keeping the Cartridge Length "Toggle' in the process so there should be little or no feeding problems.
   I have Stocks and other parts in my home 'parts stock' from supporting my two Win 1890s in .22WRF, one of which also is a WRF/WMR interchangeable Conversion.

The Best way to survive 'retirement ' is to keep busy.

Best Regards,
Chev. William

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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2017, 02:37:10 pm »

Some very interesting projects. The revolvers sound really nice. And the 1890 to 25ACP  very cool. Like you no hurry to finish the enjoyment for me is the working on them when I want to ! It's not a  job, but you are right a man needs a project to keep him going. Good to hear from you. ,,,DT
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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2017, 11:21:53 am »

Spent a couple of hrs. testing the .32 LC Rolling block bench gun.  The 90 gr. heel bullet , wax/tallow lube, # 500 CCI , and  4.5 gr. Unique , in a WW case .915 oal. Off the bags @ 50 yd. gives one ragged hole 10 shot group. Cleaned the bore after every ten shots. Now to work on stock/metal finish work,,,,DT


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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2017, 04:57:51 pm »

Dusty
Love that Rolling block and Scope .  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2017, 06:05:39 pm »

Dusty, I've had 2 repro Rolling Blocks in .45-70 over the years but now only have this little beauty, a Martini Cadet rebored to .357 mag. It's a really nice single shot. Not a good looking American classic like yours though. Pretty work sir. You can see where I walked the poi into one hole but my target was only at 40 yds. But I'm curious about the bison herd. We did a cross country trip from NC to Cody 12 years ago and got to see Yellowstone and it's bison up close. They don't seem to be animals that would be easily moved if they didn't want to move.


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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2017, 06:48:42 pm »

It is a fun little plinker Rowdy !  What a nice Martini Ed , and a shooter also! The Buffalo deal kinda fell through , you are right  they prety much will or will not do whatever they want.
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2017, 01:01:49 pm »

Made a new hammer spring and trigger spring for the .32 Long Colt / Rolling Block  big difference for the better ! The original springs are very overdone in the strength dept. It was hard to shoot the rifle well with that much of a trigger pull . The last bench session with the .32 LC  I was testing the #2400 powder and found that a charge of 6.2 gr. under the 90 gr. Ideal heeled bullet and  small pistol primer CCI brand , lube was Tallow/ wax .  I use a WW case and reload the same case after every shot at the bench. This load is a cracker ! and at 50. yd it will shoot into a little ragged hole / even with the heavy trigger pull. It should be easier to get that kind of groups with the lighter trigger pull. Did a bit more stock shaping , scraping a couple of oz. of wood away here and there . Still more to go. Metal still in the white . That's my update on my lifelong Rolling Block project . ,,,,DT 
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2017, 01:40:47 pm »

Dusty,
Lovely firearm even now.
I wonder what your loads Chronograph at?
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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2017, 02:23:49 pm »

Thank You Chev. That is up next , I plan on testing the velocity next time along with the lighter springs  . I did push the load mentioned up above the 6.2 gr. of #2400 with no sign of pressure problems. But the accuracy started to fall of . I would not be surprised  that the 6.2 gr. load was around the 1400 velocity range , but that's just a guess . I also pushed the same bullet up with Unique powder past recommended charges with no case problems , but accuracy was poor .  This  rifle is overbuilt for this 32LC cartridge and these loads are way to Hot for the 1892 Marlin .Will post bullet speeds after next shooting session. ,,,DT
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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2018, 07:07:52 pm »

Dusty,
Lovely firearm even now.
I wonder what your loads Chronograph at?
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Chev. William



     Its been a while since last working with the .32 LC   Rolling Block project , so the last few days I took some time from other task and the HEAT,  and just sat around on the porch at the Hill country place shooting . Set up the .32 LC   RB on the sand bags chronograph was set 10' away .  First load was WW case #500CCI   ,  6.2 gr. # 2400  ,  299153 bullet and tallow/wax lube .  First 5 shot group @ 50 yd. went into 3/4" velocity was high of 1363  fps . and a low of 1349 fps.  very accurate load with the heavy bench gun and 6 power scope . The second load tested has same components as first with only the powder charge increased to 7.3 #2400 . Accuracy was not as good as the previous mentioned  load measuring @1- 1/4" for 5 shot @ 50 yd. velocity was high of 1436 fps. to a low of 1418 fps. The 7.3 powder charge has a nice crack to it and shows no sign of excessive pressure , I think the 299153 may not be the best bullet for this speed . Looking at Accurate moulds catalog for a bullet that may handle preform better in this heavy built bench gun . Cheve. William  your estimate of velocities were spot on , right in line with the chronograph readings .,,,,,DT
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2018, 08:47:11 pm »

Accurate Molds does have good Bullets for the .32 LC. 
If you would like to try Some 311090A Cast Bullets, "Matt's Bullets" has my Mold and Permission to cast for Others From it.
OR I can send you some Samples he has done for me.

Contact me directly if you would like some Samples.

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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2018, 06:19:08 am »

Accurate Molds does have good Bullets for the .32 LC. 
If you would like to try Some 311090A Cast Bullets, "Matt's Bullets" has my Mold and Permission to cast for Others From it.
OR I can send you some Samples he has done for me.

Contact me directly if you would like some Samples.

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     Thank you for the reply and offer Chev , was 311090A  a typo ? I have some 31-090A bullets and 31-090S bullets cast and sent to me for testing by the late John Kort  . These bullets are up next for testing next .,,,DT
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2018, 09:50:40 am »

31-090A is the Accurate Mold catalog number but the One I ordered and received, then shipped to "Matt's Bullets for casting bullets from was marked "311090A".
I ordered a heel diameter slightly larger than the John Kort design specified; as my cases were coming out with a slightly larger ID than John's.   If I remember correctly, about .002" larger heel diameter was specified.
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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2018, 03:37:30 pm »

31-090A is the Accurate Mold catalog number but the One I ordered and received, then shipped to "Matt's Bullets for casting bullets from was marked "311090A".
I ordered a heel diameter slightly larger than the John Kort design specified; as my cases were coming out with a slightly larger ID than John's.   If I remember correctly, about .002" larger heel diameter was specified.
Chev. William
Thanks Chev , was wondering if it was the same bullet with a small change .  The Rolling Block  trigger spring and lighter main spring was noticeable during the test shooting , much better .  Time to get some finish on the stocks and bluing on the metal parts .,,,DT
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« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2018, 12:41:43 am »

This month, June 2018, I made a "homegrown" resizing or swaging die for .32 Colt family cases from a letter size "O"(.316") Hardened Alloy Steel Drill bushing and a PT&G Blank Reloading Die body.
First I tried i ton some commercial .32 Colt Long cases and found No Issues.
Then today I tried swaging down a .327 Fed. Mag. case.
It came out ~.315" diameter at the Mouth and ~.317" diameter at the Web area.
I Lubed the Case before the swaging process.
I found No Issues in the Swaging process.

The PT&G blank die body cost ~$20.00 and the McMaster-Carr Drill Bushing cost ~$7.00 so this was a relatively inexpensive experiment.

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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2018, 05:59:26 am »

Hello Chev, I have done the exact same thing , the PTG die blank is a bargain and like you say a letter O reamer works just fine . Is there a difference in rim Dia. of the 327 and the 32 LC. ? ,,DT
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« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2018, 11:28:51 am »

According to Ammoguide Interactive (AI) Drawings of the two cases:
.32 Long Colt has a rim diameter of between .366" and .381", and a Thickness of between .042" and .053".
.327 Fed. Mag. has a rim diameter of between .367" and .375", and a thickness of between .045" and .055".

AI indicates both drawings are verified against current SAAMI Recommended Dimensions.
There is a small difference in the Limits but most of either Cartridge Production Variations should comply with the either Drawing so should be negligible in effect.

Other Considerations would include the Case length but that would depend on the User trimming long cases to match their actual chamber capabilities.  The .327 Fed. Mag. does allow one to trim to .32 Extra Long if needed; otherwise, swaging .32 H&R or .32 Special might give less trimming required.
.327 Length =1.200"
.32 Extra Long = 1.150"
.32 H&R Mag. = 1.075"
.32 S&W Long = .920"
.32 Colt Long = .916" (note: heeled bullet cases seem to range from .780" to .932" depending on chamber and Bullet used).

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« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2018, 07:42:15 pm »

Wrote an article on loading and shooting 32 Colt in a Marlin 92 for “Single Shot Exchange” magazine. It is also on my web page....

Www.rvbprecision.com

Thought you might find it helpful.

I just picked up a beautiful Remington RB #4 in 32 rim fire that I will be converting to 32 S&W centerfire.
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