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« on: March 07, 2013, 02:14:25 pm »


OK pards..
Sooooo Who (if any), in your own humble opinion, makes the best  clone reprodution of the Colt Lightning??


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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 09:58:26 am »

Almost a year with no replies Shocked

Paladin I hope you have more friends than this on yer side of the pond,  Tongue

I'm gonna step out here and say that the USFA lightning would have been the best (now long gone also) but if you mean least prone to feeding issues I really don't know what to say other than the 38 versions inherently work better than the 45 ones. This is due to bullet feeding angle, rim, and other factors. Of course the same thing was true in the originals. IMHO they really aren't meant to be raced, yes some folks have better experiences than others (as well as differing opinions).

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 11:34:15 am »

Pedersoli .
I have had mine (44-40) for two years, have used it in every match 2 times a month.
Had a few misfires at first.
Had a slightly longer firing pin made for it. No problems scene.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 01:13:42 pm »

See all  it takes to get people talking here is to make fun of PUK Grin

I kinda missed the mark with my statement above:

What I was trying to make clear was that the reduced diameter "bottleneck" cartridges feed better (as was Colts original design) and that would include 32-20, 38-40, 44-40. Don't read my "38" comment to mean 38 Special.

"Best" to me means finest finished, closest to Colts, and best operating, that's why I rank the USFA first with the rest in order left to ya'll to comment on!

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 02:37:09 pm »

I logged to this board today on a whim.  I've never paid any attention to it before.  Seems like it moves kinda sloooooooooow.  But .........
When I was still plumbing CAS guns, it seems the majority of good results were being had with Pedersoli guns.  The folks that have them, that I have communed with all seemed quite pleased.  Unlike some of the others, that were best employed as Tomato Stakes.

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 04:13:20 pm »

Pedersoli. You might find you need a lighter firing pin spring/longer firing pin made up but apart from that I have only good experiences from them. Forget Uberti. Every one I've seen has had some unforgiveably bad issue from the factory including a very badly cut chamber and feeding problems everytime the magazine was used. You might get lucky with one but I wouldn't bother.

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2014, 01:59:11 pm »

I've had my Pedersoli in .45 Colt for 2-3 years and it hasn't burped once.  I've seen ubertis that can't make it through a stage.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2014, 07:25:59 pm »

Funny, I just noticed this today.  Never noticed the so-called "Child Boards" before.  The truth is none of them.  I have 14 and worked on all of them, originals and clones.  Few, if any, of any brand worked well out of the box.  Pretty much everyone has given up making them.  Pedersoli and Uberti still catalog them, but it has been a quite a while since I have seen anyone stocking them.  That having been said, right now I am primarily using four; two Ubertis and two Pedersolis.  The Pedersolis usually need the least amount of work and once working they tend to be reliable.  The problem is that because of the design those features that make them reliable also makes them slow.  The Ubertis can be shot much faster, but I have had several parts break at speed.  Parts for ALL of the originals and clones are virtually impossible to get.  USFA (out of business), AWA (out of business) and Taurus have nothing.  Original Colt parts are very expensive and very hard to find.  The Uberti and Pedersoli parts are theoretically available.  However, I have had parts on order for the Ubertis for over two years.  Took me six months to get a simple part for a Pedersoli.  If you get one and like it, immediately order some spare parts before they are totally out of production.  Or, do like like I have had to do and buy two and use one for a parts gun.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 01:02:10 pm »

If you get one and like it, immediately order some spare parts before they are totally out of production.  Or, do like like I have had to do and buy two and use one for a parts gun.

What parts would you stock up on?  Thanks for your insights.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 04:27:44 pm »

What parts would you stock up on?  Thanks for your insights.

For Uberti first and foremost a spare locking brace.  The gun is totally inoperative without this part and they are fragile.

Locking brace
extractor
pair of ejector/guide rails
a complete set of screws
mainspring  (these are odd shaped and no one makes a replacement)
firing pin safety lever


For Pedersoli

Firing pin (they are not nearly as robust as a Uberti and the tip can break off)
extractor
pair of ejector/guide rails
a complete set of screws
mainspring

These are the parts I would try to have for long term shooting.  (Based on the assumption that these parts will become unavailable as fewer and fewer of these guns are sold and they are ultimately discontinued.)
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2014, 04:26:56 pm »

These are the parts I would try to have for long term shooting.  (Based on the assumption that these parts will become unavailable as fewer and fewer of these guns are sold and they are ultimately discontinued.)

Your experience is such a boon to a tenderfoot such as myself.  I am looking at one but I think for where I am in this sport my resources would be better used elsewhere.  It just looms like a problem long term whereas with the 1873s and etc., I am thinking parts will always be more readily available. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2014, 04:51:53 pm »

Mean Bob,

My very first encounter with the Colt pump action rifle was with an original.
My original thought was these (if ever reproduced) are going to be the "cats ass" for the speed freaks in the sport, due to the short stroke of the pump action.
Within the originals, they have their problems. But, I have to say Pedersoli seems to have worked most of these problems out.
Hope this info helps.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2014, 06:48:06 pm »

Within the originals, they have their problems. But, I have to say Pedersoli seems to have worked most of these problems out.
Hope this info helps.
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Absolutely, and thanks.  I guess if a guy had some spare parts, sure (and I have seen some reasonable prices on them of late).  All the repros I have seen have been .45 LC.  I know they made them in .44 WCF, I have just never run across one I could afford (did see a couple USFAs recently--out of my league for this gun).   
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2014, 09:30:25 pm »

How much were the USFA's?  I've got one and am trying to figure out how much to ask for it.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 09:40:55 pm »

One sold for $1495. un-fired on Guns America..

then there was this one http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7324938

I saw one asking "buy now"  for $2500, on Gunbroker....
bought this one instead  Smiley


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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2014, 11:48:24 pm »

Thanks.  The one on GunAuction came up when I was searching.  However, that sale was eight years ago when USFA was still in business.  I'm hoping to find some sales that are a little more recent.  My .44-40 carbine has been shot 20 or 30 rounds so I'm guessing $1,200.00 ought to be fair.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2014, 05:45:14 am »

I saw that  , I didn't pick up on that time frame when I first canvased  Embarrassed though.

USFA aficionado's , may well beat a path to your door will $1200 in hand  Smiley 
 
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 08:08:11 am »

I always thought that the IMI Timberwolf was a Colt Lightning clone, but I just looked it up and it has an internal hammer  Huh

Anyways, the .45 Colt Taurus Thunderbolt I just picked up is a newer one.  It seems they have fixed the problems they were having with the feeding on them.  As long as the screws are tightened properly  Embarrassed 
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