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« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2013, 08:12:17 pm »

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Your quote "  I said 25 meters, not yards. It would be advisable to compete in such hard matches and live that experience before giving advice."

If you read what I said... I shoot the Uberti's at 50 yards... that is further out than your 25 meters... (25 meters =27 yards) and... I have no problem with accuracy. I shoot smokeless and I do not have a leading problem with the Uberti's which are Custer model's 7.5". It appears you do not like Uberti's, tis ok, to each his own.

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« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2013, 09:01:13 pm »


I truly thought this thread wad truly dead.  And right after we find out some of the specifications of the Redhead on the calendar, it should be! Grin
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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2013, 09:51:05 am »

we can allways learn from each other here.

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« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2013, 10:32:57 am »

Coffinmaker,

Your chances of getting your revolver (by any manufacture) to reload it's own ammo, are better, than getting the specs on the Redhead on that calendar.  Wink

Still, one can always hope?
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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2013, 01:18:18 pm »


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« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2013, 01:42:13 pm »

I truly thought this thread wad truly dead.  And right after we find out some of the specifications of the Redhead on the calendar, it should be! Grin

she was miss POLAND a few  years ago and  she posed for FB Radom (Fabryka Broni) (www. fabrykabroni.pl) the makers of the traditional Radom Pistol in Radom, Poland.

 I got that Poster at their stand in the  2012 Shot Show. Polish women are very attractive in general, like all Slavic Women..
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« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2013, 03:18:49 pm »

I'm curious why all the guns in the photo don't have grips on them.
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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2013, 03:20:55 pm »

What guns?  Wink
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« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2013, 05:43:38 pm »

They banned grips in Spain to reduce crime.......
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« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2013, 06:25:56 pm »

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« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2013, 11:37:29 pm »


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« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2013, 08:51:26 am »

I'm curious why all the guns in the photo don't have grips on them.

I live in a very wet town, and I preserve my guns without grips on to prevent moisture accumulation between grips and steel, that  more sooner than later leads to rusting.

in the case of some old SWs, and some old military revolvers, I sadly discovered that the wood was probably cured with salt or whatever, so as a careful collector, I better be careful.

I didnt dissambled the Nagantīs grips to avoid scratching or damaging the screws, that are really tight. It is an old revovler, made in 1912, pre communistj zarist Tula markings.  
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« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2013, 08:53:28 am »

Well, I can say that after three matches; the last of which was the state championship this past weekend, I like my Cimarron Pietta 7th Cav revolvers.  They have an action job by Cody Conagher and shoot real smooth.  I have never beheld the Uberti version of this gun so I cannot do a comparison.  I just wanted to say that I like the ones I have.   Cheesy
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« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2013, 09:21:32 am »

Petrinal, do you suppose that Nagant revolver migrated to Spain around 1935 or 36? I have a nice 1915 Mosin-Nagant that spent some time in Spain courtesy of the U.S.S.R.
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« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2013, 09:36:29 am »

as a matter of fact, I bought it from a collector in GERMANY, thought you are right, in the Spanish Civil War many of the these revolvers came here (via USSR or via republican agents buying old fashioned guns at atonishing high prices in the international market)

.  I have no idea how the gun ended in GERMANY, but given the german law for collectors, that is very adequate, and allows even some full auto guns collecting, it might probably have ended in Germany as a war trophy of a german soldier or who knows until some collector rescued it. It has no german importer markings or german bank proof house markings.

this one is interesting for being made under the zarist regime. It is also a troopīs model, in other words, it is single action only, no DA...and they seem to be more scarce than the DA models, for officer, or the ever present communist models.

All this revolvers, a bit underrated, have a phenomenal accuracy and the round is powerful, or at least, is very  fast.
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« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2013, 12:44:38 pm »

If it came from Germany, then I would tend to believe it was a "capture" from the First World War. Being that the Czarist markings are still intact, it suggests that the Soviets never handled it. You are lucky with owning it, I would love to have an original Imperial Russian Nagant revolver in my collection.
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« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2013, 12:07:15 am »


ANGELIKA  Roll Eyes. Guns Huh?
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« Reply #67 on: May 12, 2013, 12:48:19 am »

$429 plus tax. What's not to like?

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« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2013, 08:06:34 pm »

Had Colts, Uberti's and Pietta"s would buy any of them again.  All good guns.
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« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2014, 05:20:03 pm »

This has been an interesting read after going through it all. I have an Uberti (1993) and a Pietta GW II(2010) and they are both superb firearms and extremely accurate when shot with a load that is tailored to each gun. Reliability has proven to be excellent with a few thousand rounds through each with full power (36 gr. Swiss) BP loads and some quite stout smokeless loads under heavy bullets. Both are chambered for 44 WCF with .429 barrels. I have also owned Colts that were outshined by both of these(go figure). I also do alot of "longrange" shooting with handguns, ie out to 500 yds and been quite successful at it. NOW, having said all of that (which does not impress me at all and hopefully neither does it you), none of these brands can hold a candle and pale in comparison to my working gun which is a J.P. Sauer .44 mag made in the early 70's and cost me less than a Colt or Ruger. It is more precisely made, stronger, much more accurate and the action from the factory is smoother than either a Janis, Turnbull or Munden worked action (as Eddie Janis told me  13 yrs ago). I can shoot .44 Russian, .44 Colt, .44 Spl, .44 Mag and with another cylinder, .44 WCF in this gun with no leading (think velocity and BHN). I have a smokeless load that will shoot to the same point of impact at 100 yds with either a 200gr. cowboy bullet or a Keith SWC in 265 gr. (think velocity, trajectory and especially practice).

As I said, I read this entire thread with great interest and IMO, buy what trips your trigger and enjoy it. Don't let anyone belittle your tastes in guns, women, hunting dogs or cars because they are just voicing their opinion or experiences which are subject to change. Enjoy yourselves, and if you just have to flame this post, go ahead as I can provide either paper, witnesses or exhibit exactly what has been posted (but you will have to call me: 417-359-8880). God Bless and shoot safe.
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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2014, 08:26:18 am »

I have a pair of Taylor's Smoke Wagons in .44-40 and I shoot only BP. These have been great guns for the last 5 years. I would not hesitate to buy another pair. I have a Colt, 2 Uberti Cattleman and an older EMF that I use as back-ups to my Smoke Wagons.

Have you skinned your smoke wagon lately?  :-\Rye
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« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2014, 06:11:31 pm »

I am puzzled by the comments regarding Ubertis not shooting lead bullets and black powder well. Restricting my comments to cartridge guns, mine shoot fine. Admittedly, six samples are not an exhaustive evaluation, but they are a nice cross-section.
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A pair of  4 3/4" 38-357
A pair of 4 3/4" 44-40 Bisleys
A pair of 7 1/2" 38-40
These guns have never seen anything but lead and blackpowder. No leading and all shoot very close to point of aim. Sorry, I can't show you pictures of group sizes as I haven't had them on paper in a while.
I also agree with a previous comment about the variety of guns made by Uberti. Doubt I would be shooting a pair of Bisleys if not for Uberti. I currently have 10 Colts to compare these Ubertis to. All get shot in cowboy matches and its just a matter of which calibers I feel like shooting that day. I love them all.   Navy Six
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« Reply #72 on: February 25, 2014, 07:43:28 pm »

I have found all my Uberti guns to shoot well with cast or swaged lead bullets with smokeless and BP loads.
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« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2017, 01:21:39 pm »

Lately has Pietta put back the patent dates back on their frames?
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« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2017, 05:23:29 pm »

Lately has Pietta put back the patent dates back on their frames?

They have been putting them on their guns for Cimarron for several years.  I do not know if they put them back on all their other lines (GW II, Traditions, etc)
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