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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2012, 01:40:25 pm »

Been doing some gun room cleaning and found these two I forgot about.  A pair of Robert E. Lee "C" series Colts.  Now I need to decide whether to tune and shoot them or leave them stock and new in the box.  I bought these because my fingers barely fit in the square back trigger guards.  2nd Gen 1851 Colts with round trigger guards are scarce.

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2012, 06:47:22 pm »

Thanks!  I like it a lot...I just wish the grips fit a bit better....   Undecided

I can fit that frame and those grips to each other for ya!
Then we need to silver plate it.............

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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2012, 11:54:15 am »

I can fit that frame and those grips to each other for ya!
Then we need to silver plate it.............

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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2012, 12:12:12 pm »

Been doing some gun room cleaning and found these two I forgot about.  A pair of Robert E. Lee "C" series Colts.  Now I need to decide whether to tune and shoot them or leave them stock and new in the box.  I bought these because my fingers barely fit in the square back trigger guards.  2nd Gen 1851 Colts with round trigger guards are scarce.



I have three of those and they are by far my "favor-ites" of all the Colts.

One some jack wagon antiqued (rusted to hell) and even "un" fitted the grips on it Undecided
I use it for a sort of test mule in cartridge work.

One is just like yours in the box w/accessories and unfired.

One is getting the (commemorative) roll marking removed and some subtle 1st generation metal work done to it...

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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2012, 01:09:55 am »

the colt 1851 navy is my all time favorite hand gun.
 here are mine.

my well used 3rd generation with accessories, and yes boys its loaded it stays this way from october to about mid march, if it aint loaded it cuz i'm reloading it Grin



a very old uberti with a 5 some odd inch barrel that i found in a pawn shop about 15 years ago. it didnt have a lick of bluing left on it.



my second generation made in 1974 with a colt display box and accessories




my second generation 1 of 500 shooters i believe that was made in 1976,note the brass trigger guard




to me this gun has the best case harden i have seen on a factory gun





and just for fun



i have a second generation made in 1971 with a dixon bag flask due in any day now that i'll post pictures of when i get it, and im fatten up my piggy bank for another one that i have a cool project in mind for after the first of the year Grin
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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2012, 10:07:06 am »

Guess I should include my THUER here Wink



This is a Colts Second Generation, Original (hand engraved, London) cylinder and a hand made ring...





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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2012, 10:41:40 am »

Got some pictures of the Thuer ammo?
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2012, 11:03:26 am »

Got some pictures of the Thuer ammo?

Take a look here:
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,45685.0.html
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« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2012, 11:04:58 pm »

What's the general opinions about Traditions guns?

I see one on gun broker that I'm interested in.
Are they worth the money? 

This one has a 5 inch barrel, is nickel and engraved.  They are asking around $270.00.

Good price? Bad price? 
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« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2012, 11:12:10 pm »

Sounds like an "Old Silver" in 44 cal.........
Those are photo engraved.
The 44 calibre 1851''s tend to sell cheaper.

Are you sure it's nickle and not just in the white?
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« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2012, 11:50:41 pm »

Sounds like an "Old Silver" in 44 cal.........
Those are photo engraved.
The 44 calibre 1851''s tend to sell cheaper.

Are you sure it's nickle and not just in the white?


The Traditions/Piettas photo engraved .44 cal 5 inch barreled  '51 navies come in two varieties,  The old silver finish - that I can't tell you what it actually is; but I'm thinking some kind of chemical etching of the metal - and the heat treated high polished in the white that looks like nickel. 
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« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2012, 12:55:22 am »

You're correct.  I went back to the auction and it's the 44 Cal model and it says the barrel is 7 inches.  I lost any interest I had in it. I preferred it was a. 36 instead and had a 5 inch barrel. 

Oh well.  Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2012, 07:55:59 am »

Don't give up Brotha!
There are some great deals to be had on there Wink
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« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2012, 07:53:54 pm »

Guess I'll post a pic of my 1851 London Models - original and reproduction .....



The original is one of 800 such revolvers purchased from British War Department stocks by Canada (i.e. the pre-Confederation Colony, consisting of Upper Canada and Lower Canada) in 1855 for issue to its Volunteer Militia Troops of Cavalry.  This one is marked on the grips .... as all of them were .... in this case denoting that this revolver was issued in Upper Canada as number 4 of the 50 revolvers issued in B Troop (St. Catharines in the Niagara Region)  -



The reproduction revolver (Uberti) is one of a "limited commemorative edition" sold back in the 1970's by an Ontario gun dealer, each one marked as one of the originals would have been marked .....

And I now have a London-style case (made by Bill's Cases) which will fit either revolver, of course.  Here it is housing the original -

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« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2012, 06:06:41 pm »

Rattlesnake Jack, that is an awesome original and having a matching repro is very cool as well.

I've posted these before, but since we have an official '51 picture thread now  Smiley here's my Cimarron '51 conversions again.

The 7 1/2" Richards-Masons I had first, and the fancy 5 1/2" came later.  They are charcoal blue, engraved by Kelly Laster, then I sent the frames to Doug Turnull for his case hardening.  For a while I had Thunderer grips on them (hi-resolution pic of those that shows the engraving better here: http://www.davidscottharper.com/shoot/Thunderer-Masons.jpg ) They now have Bar-S Tru-Ivory "slightly aged" grips.


I rotate through several sets of guns shooting CAS, but shoot these the most.  Great for BP Gunfighter.


And this is the original set after I refinished the grips with an oil finish


Nichols Creek shot this video of me shooting the engraved conversions gunfighter style.  Not the smoothest in the world and one rifle miss through the smoke, but who cares?   Grin  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JpUwjB5SNY
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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2012, 06:18:49 pm »

Here's a few of Cimarron's 1851 show guns that I had a chance to take pictures of:

This one has Bar-S Tru-Ivory grips.  I'm not sure if it is in the white or "antique nickle" that they used to offer.


This is actually just an off-the-shelf Uberti offering with micarta grips and laser-engraving:


This one that is labelled "Hickock" on the box has Turnbull case-colors, I think.  Not sure if the grips are ivory or not.  This gun is what inspired me to get charcoal blue engraved conversions.
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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2013, 12:01:08 pm »

Glad to see not all the 1851s have been converted, someone needs to keep the originals the way they were in this thread!  I am the odd man out in this thread as I have never really gotten to fond of the 1851.  Just not my cup of tea.  That said, I did have a couple,

Here is the first one.



And the other one.



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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2013, 04:45:25 pm »

My 1851 sheriffs

top is a Pietta and bottom is an ASM


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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2013, 09:37:14 am »

a second generation colt made in 1971. with a colt 3 way tool, a  dixon bag flask and a john cohea knife with bark ivory handles and damacus blade. words can't describe and pictures dont do justice for this set up

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2013, 09:42:24 am »

and what i like to call my 3 senoritas.

1971
1974
1976 one of 500



the one of 500 is a shooter to. 6 shot group at 15 paces. the bottom bullet holes are from one of the other guns

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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2013, 09:29:13 pm »

Hope this is the right place to ask this!!! Just picked up a 1851 " brass case", from a friend of mine,it has a "B D" stamped in a square ,i know it's to tell the  date      of mfg. ,but i"v lost my copy ( or list) of dates anyone,,,,help it is .44 cal.7 1/2 " new never fired NIB.






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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2013, 10:06:31 pm »

CORRECTION!!!!!! it's "BZ" not BD,, .







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« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2013, 06:17:32 am »

BZ=2005
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« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2013, 11:28:59 am »

Thanks, Major 2, now i need the one for "BD",,,,,this gun's gett'n older by the minute!!!!!! I'v never even held a 51 before,now i own one.  It is heaver than i thought it would be, but it feels handy, and fairly well balanced. The hammer seems to be a bit stout,how much can i light'n it up ,or do these c&b's need more than ,,,say my 75's???





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« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2013, 12:56:22 pm »

Thanks, Major 2, now i need the one for "BD",,,,,this gun's gett'n older by the minute!!!!!! I'v never even held a 51 before,now i own one.  It is heaver than i thought it would be, but it feels handy, and fairly well balanced. The hammer seems to be a bit stout,how much can i light'n it up ,or do these c&b's need more than ,,,say my 75's???
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Here's a date code list.  Not the latest; but, current enough.



The spring needs to be stiffer than for a cartridge gun.  You can lighten it up some.  Really depends on how stiff it is to begin with.  The older models had some really stiff (3/4 ton truck) springs and can benefit just buy getting a new spring from Taylor's or VTI.  Put some Slix Shot nipples on it, and you can get a reduced power mainspring for an SAA that will make the pistol feel like greased lightning.
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