looking for a "buffalo revolver"

[delmar]

I have been looking for a "buffalo revolver" a with a steel frame. It is easy to find an 1858 reproduction
in 12" with a brass frame, or to find one that is stainless steel, but a regular steel frame 1858 with a
12" barrel does not seem to be available. Why do you suppose that is?

[Pettifogger]

Mainly because the market for 12" barrel cap and balls is SMALL.

[delmar]

Mainly because the market for 12" barrel cap and balls is SMALL.

That would be a good reason not to bother with stainless, I think. Yet they build it in brass
frame, and in Stainless. All it would take to offer it in Steel frame, is to put the barrel that
 they already manufacture for the brass frame, on a steel frame.

[Pettifogger]

Who can explain marketing decisions?  Bottom line is the 12" barrel model is seldom seen and, thus, seldom purchased.  You can try VTI and see if they have a barrel in stock and swap it onto a steel frame gun.

http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=67&cat=Pietta+1858+Remington%2C+Tiro

[delmar]

Who can explain marketing decisions?  Bottom line is the 12" barrel model is seldom seen and, thus, seldom purchased.  You can try VTI and see if they have a barrel in stock and swap it onto a steel frame gun.

http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=67&cat=Pietta+1858+Remington%2C+Tiro

Wow, thanks for the heads up! Not only do they have the 12" barrel for the 1858 Pietta,
 but they also have the 18" barrel for the Uberti 1858 Revolver Carbine! I would never be able to holster
it, but what an outrageous conversation piece would that be? Might need a bi-pod to actually fire the sucker, though

[Professor Marvel]

they also have the 18" barrel for the Uberti 1858 Revolver Carbine! I would never be able to holster
it, but what an outrageous conversation piece would that be? Might need a bi-pod to actually fire the sucker, though

Greetings Delmar -
Having handled the revolving carbines I can affirm that they are rather light (vis-a-vis a an 1873 lever rifle for example) easily shouldered and not particularly difficult to fire and operate one handed. The latter, when added to the fact that the revolving carbine does not eject any brass, has made them quite popular with the Mounted Shooting affecianados. Not only is it unneccessary to work a lever but it is apparently quite desirable to refrain form ejecting brass onto the arena for a variety of reasons :-)

yhs
prof marvel

[delmar]

Does anyone here know if 1858 barrels tend to be brand specific, or will the barrel from an Uberti  fit a Pietta and vice versa?

[Professor Marvel]

Greetings Delmar -
whilst we await a wiser head who has removed and measured the diameters and threads of the several makes, I thought I might further waste your time and the paper and ink server space with this observation:
our beloved supplier of parts, VTI, indicates completely different and unique (yes, different and unique is redundant, but hey, I did  warn you with regards to wasting time & etc) part numbers for the ASM Remmy barrel, the Uberti Remmy barrel, and the Pietta Remmy barrel.

A further warning is that none of the ground-based clubs (SASS, or CAS) seem to allow the use of the revolving carbine in any shoots. Your results may vary at individual clubs.

One gentleman way back then was developing and planning to patent a pump-action revolving rifle based on cartridge Colt clone revolver frames (with appropriate manufacturing licenses, BATF approval,  etc, etc)  in which the pump forend actuated a rod passing through the cylinder pin, and extended just far enough to cock the hammer.... imagine his disappointment :-(

Whilst the ruling was clearly based on safety issues, as no one wants to see a fellow blow his hand off, I was lamenting the ruling   greatly as I had planned to stay within the years bracketed by my 1851 Colts and 1858 Remmies, hoping to use an 1858 revolving carbine and simply not concern myself with the time eaten reloading the carbine on the clock, since I do not play to be competitive and my times can be clocked with the Sands of an Hourglass (or at least a three minute eggtimer).

I myself was saved in the end by miraculously trading into a Yellowboy owned by a gent who was into into Mounted Shooting,  thus extending my desired era only into 1866, and actually acquiring a lovely carbine I had long lusted after but could never otherwise afford.

verbously,
yhs
prof marvel

[Montana Slim]

Try Gunbroker. There was a matched pair of fancied-up Loong-barreled Remingtons and another (single Remmie) with target sights I believe.

Regards,
Slim

[delmar]

Try Gunbroker. There was a matched pair of fancied-up Loong-barreled Remingtons and another (single Remmie) with target sights I believe.

Regards,
Slim

I type 1858 into the search at gunbroker and Ebang a few times a week, and I have found
4 or 5 long barreled Remintons but all were either brass frame, or stainless steel. It is looking to me
 like a barrel swap, of some sort, is the way to go.