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Thanks TW, I never thought of waxing the needle. I have always just used the pliers to pull the lace through and thus the problem of breaking
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I spoke with Kid Terico (a good guy) on the phone about his lacing, and he doesn't use a needle. He said he makes sure the lace is cut to a fine point, the pokes it through the holes by hand, pulling the lace the rest of the way through with pliers. He uses the Tandy lacing chisel and the Tandy fid. Now he can weigh in on this and tell you any fine points, or correct what I’ve said. Looking at some of his rigs, he has the lacing technique down pat!
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Quote from: Gun Butcher on October 08, 2009, 08:05:30 am
Thanks TW, I never thought of waxing the needle. I have always just used the pliers to pull the lace through and thus the problem of breaking
GB, using the two prong lacing needle makes lacing a breeze, you just need to prep, before you start, after I use the chisels I then open the slits a little more with the fid, draw my needle over my bees wax every few slits, these things make pushing and pulling the needle through the leather much easier, like JD was pointing out, if you want to use a hole punch instead of a chisel, you can do as KT does and make a narrow pointed end and just put it through the hole and pull it all the way through, using a slit or chisel gives you a much more sealed hole, but this is a matter of what you're doing and how you want it to look, it's nice to have options. Heres a picture of the lacing done with a chisel and fid on 8/9 ounce leather, both sides are cemented together, and then after putting in a stitch line using a stitch line groover, I punched my holes, if you're going to lace a piece that is really thick, using the chisel becomes a little too hard to use, you would be better off to drill your holes, this is true where there is a thick welt in a holster or knife sheath, you can still use the chisel and fid , but it will be harder to get through the leather, and in some cases not worth it. IMHO
Maybe Kid Terico will chime in here, he has surely, done a lot of lacing.
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Poor feller don't know the diffrence tween lead and wood,well bless his heart anyway..
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Quote from: GunClick Rick on October 08, 2009, 11:09:46 am
Poor feller don't know the diffrence tween lead and wood,well bless his heart anyway..
Rick, that's a last bullet in, bullet pusher, used for lever actions, it's some times hard to get that last bullet in far enough, this pusher allows you to get it in, when I load my lever action, I use the next bullet to push the one before it in, which works fine, but when you get to the last bullet in, it will some times hang up, using a pusher solves the problem.
Now you know why I carry loaded wood
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I ain't gonna say it..
i'm off to the saddle shop...That is a dang good idea TW,i believe i'll make me one,thanks.My thumb is sore by the time i get my last bullet in..
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I do it just like JD Said except I use a I use a needle nose and not a pliers. TW if I am going through a very thick piece 1/2 " I will even use small screwdriver the size of the slot to open it more to get the lace in. If u make it a little to wide use your shoe hammer to pound it down . It will close nicely. This what works foe me. TW your right sometimes its a lot of work. Depends how bad u want it. KT
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Back when I was doing some leather work, I also would keep a bar of soap sitting around....Ivory used to work best. And every now and then stick the needle into the soap, and gives it a good slickering....
just a tip from a used to be....
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Quote from: Kid Terico on October 08, 2009, 06:08:13 pm
I do it just like JD Said except I use a I use a needle nose and not a pliers. TW if I am going through a very thick piece 1/2 " I will even use small screwdriver the size of the slot to open it more to get the lace in. If u make it a little to wide use your shoe hammer to pound it down . It will close nicely. This what works foe me. TW your right sometimes its a lot of work. Depends how bad u want it. KT
KT, I was referring to using the lacing chisel, on too thick a seam, as being a lot of work and not worth it, when using a hole punch, it is a whole lot easier to get through thick leather and therefore more user friendly, sorry if I didn't word that right.
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TW You probley did say it right. . I misread . MY BAD. KT
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