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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2008, 06:33:24 pm »

Kindah halfway wish NASCAR would scrap this thing ‘n just go with Cup ‘n  trucks.

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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2008, 08:24:15 pm »

Interesting!

Since a Challenger is essentially a citified 'Cuda ...


Yep friend showed a link to me last year on the Challenger


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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2008, 08:34:16 pm »

One of my friends from when I grew up had a new '70. Copper color with a brown vinyl roof, 340 auto. Rolled it in a corn field, totalled. Beautiful car, though...................Buck Cool Roll Eyes Undecided
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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2008, 12:32:55 am »

Well!

4 Eyed Buck, thanks to you I sought information on the new Challenger.  I saw the one that they just auctioned for charity.  Serial # 43, $40K base price - it brought over $220,000.

And I think they screwed the pooch.  It got modernized (as it would have to) - but ugly.  I am VERY disappointed.  It looks too ... safe.  And rounded.  'Specially right under the front grill.  It's hard to describe.  I could probably FORCE myself to be seen in one  Wink  but honestly, even IF I had that kind of money, I wouldn't get one.  Your mileage may vary.

I didn't check out the "new" Camaro.  I was afraid they'd have changed it too much, too.



Don't get me wrong, it ain't UGLY ---- it just ain't  ... well ...

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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2008, 01:01:35 am »

I love a Mopar product but there are a few models I'd jus as soon see them scrub.  That PT Cruiser is an abomonation as well as that Magnum.  While in KC I saw what happens in the match of PT vs. mailbox.  The Mailbox won an traffic was held up for hours while they cleared the plastic off the street.
     Woulld like to get behind the wheel of one of them Prowlers however...


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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2008, 01:15:11 pm »

And I think they screwed the pooch.  It got modernized (as it would have to) - but ugly.  I am VERY disappointed.  It looks too ... safe.  And rounded.  'Specially right under the front grill.  It's hard to describe.  I could probably FORCE myself to be seen in one  Wink  but honestly, even IF I had that kind of money, I wouldn't get one.  Your mileage may vary.

Where I see the big difference, first glance at these retros, is the wheels ‘n tires. A much bigger wheel ‘n lower aspect ratio ‘n wider tire. They’re closer to the car’s corners too.

Me, myownself, don’t mind the tall wheels if they’re done tastefully ‘n the cars engineered for ‘em i.e. the Challenger. Nothin’ looks quite as dumb as some of the wheel ‘n tire combinations folks fit ta vehicles what weren’t. Makes ‘em look like clown cars at the circus.

The retros are smaller. Lighter. Lower center of gravity. Better balanced. An entirely different engine package. Aero shaped slicker. They’re built to turn. That, boys, is my game. A straight stretch is fun but they just connect the turns. Really get me a charge outtah off ‘n on ramps or rides out in the country where I can let my ride be herself. Enjoy the five speed rather than cuss the clutch when yer stuck in traffic.

Just an opinion, course, but that’s where the retros are gonna whip the originals. Thinkin’ that might be the difference in the look too.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2008, 01:32:35 pm »

I rented a new Charger last time I flew into AZ.  Its a long ride from Pheonix to Sedona with some nice curves in the last stretch.  Have ta say it was a nice ride--comfortable and high performance rolled into one.  We had rented a convertable Mustang GT on the previous trip--looked good but not made for long rides if yer wife has a bad back.  I'd give the Charger an 8 out of 10 on all around performance and milage.


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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2008, 02:18:56 pm »

I've always liked Mopar. My favorite "modern" Mopars are:

But I shouldn't get behind the wheel of either. Would be too tempting ta see what they can do.  Roll Eyes

This is my favorite Mopar.


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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2008, 02:39:54 pm »

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     Yer first picture didn't show--would love to see it.  Remember the Super Bee?  That was a radical machine if I ever saw one.  Dusters were fun too as long as you had the 318 stead of that worthless straight six. 


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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2008, 04:41:09 pm »

“Gentlemen, start your U.A.W. engines.” I guess the Toyota drivers can’t start theirs..
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2008, 04:42:17 pm »

I liked the original Challengers, but my personal favorite was the Mustangs. Guess I just understood the Ford's better. The GTX Dodge for '67 was a real thumper, too.
 Susie's mid life crisis has as much standard horse power as the standard 289's did then, but out of a 4 liter V-6( 205 ponies). It does corner/steer better than my old ones. Lesse' 61x4=244. That engine is a 244ci by the old standards, original Windsor V-8's started out at 223, went to 260, then 289, then 302. The last incarnation was the 351......Buck Cool Roll Eyes Wink
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2008, 04:50:55 pm »

Great thread Arcey!!!
     I can see this un goin on an on  Grin 
     As far as the 351's go Cleavland beat the snot out a Windsor.  289 an 302 had a good run from the factory an both were great motors.  The ATDC firing as opposed to the competion's BTDC really gave em some longevity.
     Luv talkin cars  Grin


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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2008, 04:58:05 pm »

I remember well the late 60's,  my Chevelle thought straight was the only direction to go.  made a world of passes down a quarter mile. Grin
I'm sure my little Toyota pickup would beat the old Chevelle on a road course,  It corners great.  but them quick runs sure were fun,  stop light to stop light.  it was just run what ya brung back then, a good foot on the clutch could overcome a lot of horsepower sometimes,  didn't need no stinking air conditioner back then, took away too much power,  Grin
when I was in College up at Stillwater, used to run whatever came along,  remember along about 1970 or 71 the 440  6 pack came out, ran a lot of those and beat a lot them,  too much power to get to the ground,  tires were awful back then.

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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2008, 05:00:59 pm »

The Cleveland heads beat the Windsor ones hands down. We got a couple of new 74 Torinos with the Cleveland engines and they ran good.  In 75, we got 2 more, but they had 460s in them. Man were they a handful. That was the only year they offered the 460 in the Torino.  In 76, we got 2 with the 351 Windsors, man they were dogs. They wouldn't run fast enough to catch a cold.
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2008, 05:02:31 pm »

The Cleveland's had different heads and four-bolt mains compared to the Windsor's two bolts. They tried to marry them at one time as a performance mod, and then Ford came out with that 351M that wasn't too successful. Believe the lowered compresson rates foiled that one..............Buck Cool Roll Eyes
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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2008, 05:09:48 pm »

One thing about being an Old Cop is that you can remember when your Patrol cars ran on premium gasoline and had over 400 cubes under the hood.
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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2008, 05:12:09 pm »

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     That ol hard rubber was the pits.  Had to change the softies more often but worth it!!!  It's jus gotta stick to the road to use the motor's potential as I'm sure you know.  Nutin better than when it's 100 plus an the asphault's ready to fry an egg behind the wheel of a well powered vehicle  Grin
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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2008, 05:17:40 pm »

That was Pre Crown Vic. time.  Leo, I started as a Cop in 1970 with a 429 Ford, and I'm out there.
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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2008, 05:30:26 pm »

They were smart to go with the 429 and not the 460.  Even with the 6 quart oil pan they was known to blow at high RPM.  God luv a big block.
     
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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2008, 05:59:30 pm »

Geeeeezzzzz….. Taxin’ an old man’s mind.

Thinkin’ the Cleveland had a different block. Buck pointed out the four bolt main caps. The distributor went directly into the block. They didn’t have the PITA hunk of heater hose between the water pump and the intake either.

Bein’ a city cop most I had were the 318 Chrysler stuff that stayed in the garage almost as much as it stayed on the streets. The Malibus were fantastic.

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« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2008, 07:20:26 pm »

Geeeeezzzzz….. Taxin’ an old man’s mind.

Thinkin’ the Cleveland had a different block. Buck pointed out the four bolt main caps. The distributor went directly into the block. They didn’t have the PITA hunk of heater hose between the water pump and the intake either.

Bein’ a city cop most I had were the 318 Chrysler stuff that stayed in the garage almost as much as it stayed on the streets. The Malibus were fantastic.

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     Gives me an opportunity to refresh ma memory an smile a bit  Smiley


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« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2008, 11:07:50 pm »

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     Yer first picture didn't show--would love to see it.  Remember the Super Bee?  That was a radical machine if I ever saw one.  Dusters were fun too as long as you had the 318 stead of that worthless straight six. 


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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2008, 04:01:51 pm »

Slim,  Have you ever heard of a guy named Tommy Archer?   He has a race shop in Fort Worth and he races Vipers in the SCCA series.  Those are some bad rides.
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« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2008, 08:50:03 pm »

Slim,  Have you ever heard of a guy named Tommy Archer?   He has a race shop in Fort Worth and he races Vipers in the SCCA series.  Those are some bad rides.
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« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2008, 11:51:51 pm »

I will have to say that the Mopar police cars that I have driven were the fastest, My only complaint with them was that the brakes didn't last long in a high speed chase.  Did anybody notice the Pace car in Sunday's Nascar race?  A Dodge Charger Police Cruiser Demo unit complete with Lightbar.  That was COOL.
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