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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 11:52:55 am »

Great photos............thanks

Now I need some help withmy Uberti. I want to put a sling swivel eye in my forend cap. I cant loosen the cap screws and I can't for the life of me remove the mag tube in order to remove the cap. I know that screw gorrilla is working overtime out here at the factory. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 12:34:09 pm »

Great photos............thanks

Now I need some help withmy Uberti. I want to put a sling swivel eye in my forend cap. I cant loosen the cap screws and I can't for the life of me remove the mag tube in order to remove the cap. I know that screw gorrilla is working overtime out here at the factory. Any suggestions?

I have not been successful in removing mine either.  I have tried the usual smacking it with a plastic mallet and squirting wd40 on it.  I got my 66 and 73 end caps off, but this 76 is a bear.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2007, 01:25:15 pm »

The worst screws on mine were the hammer screw and the nose cap screws; same ones that were the worst on my 73.  Just get the rifle on a flat solid surface and with a screw driver perfectly matched to the slot, put your chin solidly down on the butt end of the screw driver.  Holding down force with your chin, apply pulsing torque to the driver.  Eventually they popped loose.  The chin also keeps the driver from jumping up out of the slot and buggering it up. 

You have to drive out the pin in the mag tube ring/hanger in order to remove the mag tube.  I don't know whether it makes any difference but I drove it out following general convention of driving out from left to right, viewing from the rear.  That little groove in the tube that the pin goes in is the only thing that keeps the mag tube in place.  It is not screwed to the receiver like in an 86. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2007, 01:30:54 pm »

The worst screws on mine were the hammer screw and the nose cap screws; same ones that were the worst on my 73.  Just get the rifle on a flat solid surface and with a screw driver perfectly matched to the slot, put your chin solidly down on the butt end of the screw driver.  Holding down force with your chin, apply pulsing torque to the driver.  Eventually they popped loose.  The chin also keeps the driver from jumping up out of the slot and buggering it up. 

You have to drive out the pin in the mag tube ring/hanger in order to remove the mag tube.  I don't know whether it makes any difference but I drove it out following general convention of driving out from left to right, viewing from the rear.  That little groove in the tube that the pin goes in is the only thing that keeps the mag tube in place.  It is not screwed to the receiver like in an 86. 

I am not sure my chin is that strong.  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2007, 02:25:47 pm »

I did drive out the mag tube pin in the hanger.  it seems the tube is binding either against the wood or nosecap hanger. Will have to play some more with it.  By the way...all of my original 76's do have the mag tube groove running full length of the barrel.

Eventually I want to cut down the barrel on my Uberti to 24". I have a original made in that lenght and it carries real nice.
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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2007, 03:52:35 pm »

I had loosened the nose cap before I drove out the pin.  After both, the mag tube slid out easliy so iimagine the the nose cap does keep the tube in some sort of bind against the dovetail block that the nose cap screws screw into.  BTW, the dovetail block that holds the nose cap was very loose in mine.  Once the nose cap was off, the block fell right out of the dovetail.  It might be something to be checked and corrected before recoil batters the dovetail or overstresses that small pin holding in the mag tube.

I haven't decided whether I'm going to go with making the factory barrel into a 24" HRHO button mag version or put on a 22" (full mag)  round barrel.  Might do both and see which I like better.  The groove in the bottom of the original does make the button mag option a little more interesting.  The barrel will be pretty thin before the groove is fully removed on the portion extending past the button mag.   
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2007, 07:52:06 pm »

Why not just leave it as a full mag.and make it a half octagon........turn down the factory barrel.. cheaper that way
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2007, 09:48:47 pm »

Just turning the barrel to half round does not remove all that much weight.  I ran the numbers and the result is ~ 3oz.  The goal of the project is to reduce the weight and move the center of gravity to the rear.  I already have enough guns that need a tripod or wheels.  I plan to carry this one.  As far as the magazine, the last I heard Crazy horse was dead  Wink.  Except for fightin injuns, I can't think of any reason or need to stuff another pound of cartridges in the magazine and make it even heavier.  If I can't kill what I am to kill with 4 to 5 rounds, I need to hang it on the wall and get a rocking chair  Wink.  So 22"RBFM or 24"HRHO button mag.   
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2007, 10:10:17 pm »

Just turning the barrel to half round does not remove all that much weight.  I ran the numbers and the result is ~ 3oz.  The goal of the project is to reduce the weight and move the center of gravity to the rear.  I already have enough guns that need a tripod or wheels.  I plan to carry this one.  As far as the magazine, the last I heard Crazy horse was dead  Wink.  Except for fightin injuns, I can't think of any reason or need to stuff another pound of cartridges in the magazine and make it even heavier.  If I can't kill what I am to kill with 4 to 5 rounds, I need to hang it on the wall and get a rocking chair  Wink.  So 22"RBFM or 24"HRHO button mag.   

LOL Grin

I sure like the 22 inch round barrel on the 1876.  I wish Uberti and Chaparral would consider building one with the short barrel and finished in bright blue - or, and a shotgun butt would be nice too!  I frankly get tired seeing all the CCH receives on the 1873s and now the 1876s.  That's one thing I really like about  that NWMP SRC.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2007, 11:00:13 pm »

Grizzly - You the Man!  This is Excellent! Thank You.
Not many of us have the original  Sad and the comparisons are most educational

Might want to move this post up as a Sticky so it doesn't get lost as the forum grows

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